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Philly Trades: #3, Oubre, Drummond, Eric Gordon

New Orleans Trades: #7, Herb Jones, Olynick

Philly moves down in the draft and gives up some small pieces to get Jones and the 7th pick. Olynick is a nice back up 4/5 who can shoot which is something Philly has missed. Herb would be a great fit with Maxey, McCain, and George. With the 7th pick they can still get a top tier player in Tre Johnson, Kneuppel, CMB, or Edgecomb depending on who falls.

New Orleans moves way up to snag Bailey a guy with superstar potential. Trading Jones is tough but Bailey takes his place at a way higher potential level. If Bailey hits, the Pels can transition away from Zion and move forward in a big way.

I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

I think Philly just resigns Grimes/Oubre(likely opts out to get a longer deal) and stays at 3. Herb coming off a worse year than previous ones and an injury is just not a big enough need for Philly to move down like this. Kelly O is more of a throw in and doesn't move the calculus here.

PhillyNj wrote:I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

That's crazy, in terms of advanced analytics, eye test, and general consensus.

As a Pels fan, Im a no on this unless we are trading Zion. If not, then Id rather Herb and 8. But the value is fair to the Pels.

PhillyNj wrote:I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

This is a free country and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't think you're going to have a lot of company here...

PhillyNj wrote:I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

That's wild. Are you just ignoring all statistical evidence here?

lordjeff05 wrote:

PhillyNj wrote:I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

That's crazy, in terms of advanced analytics, eye test, and general consensus.

As a Pels fan, Im a no on this unless we are trading Zion. If not, then Id rather Herb and 8. But the value is fair to the Pels.

Oubre wins the better esthetics metric. Oubre is a career chunker that has a role in the NBA but is clearly way less impactful than Herb. I just don't see a big enough need for Herb if George is still in town and they want to give big minutes to McCain. Grimes is likely resigned. He would for sure help but likely not enough to justify the drop.

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

PhillyNj wrote:I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

That's wild. Are you just ignoring all statistical evidence here?

That poster has a Ripken-esque streak of rejecting trade proposals to the Sixers, so I wouldn't sweat it.

For me, Herb is a guy I like bringing in. Not an Olynyk fan so I'd want something else in his place but I'm at the discussion table when we start with Herb and 7.

I'd love that for the Sixers

Salary seems way off though. I think it would need to be just Herb Jones?

psman2 wrote:

lordjeff05 wrote:

PhillyNj wrote:I don’t think Jones is any better than Oubrea, so this is an easy no.

That's crazy, in terms of advanced analytics, eye test, and general consensus.

As a Pels fan, Im a no on this unless we are trading Zion. If not, then Id rather Herb and 8. But the value is fair to the Pels.

Oubre wins the better esthetics metric. Oubre is a career chunker that has a role in the NBA but is clearly way less impactful than Herb. I just don't see a big enough need for Herb if George is still in town and they want to give big minutes to McCain. Grimes is likely resigned. He would for sure help but likely not enough to justify the drop.

Yeah to each their own on that, but to me Herb both "looks" like he's playing better defense, and stats would indicate that he is playing better defense. He gets alot of home run plays like live ball turnovers and blocking 3 point shots that are fun to wathc on top of the high level help and point of attack defense that is less sexy to watch.

I'm more interested in a Zion/Embiid trade with NOP +/- a 3rd team.

Would NOP still be interested if it was 5 and Oubre for 7 for Jones?

youngcrev wrote:I'd love that for the Sixers

Salary seems way off though. I think it would need to be just Herb Jones?

I think it works salary wise. This is also assuming Gordon and Drummond both opt in.

Yes for me for Philly. Herb is great and helps you win now assuming they will want a real shot with Embiid and PG next year. I’m not a fan of Ace and don’t think there’s a huge drop off from 3-8 so they still get a nice prospect. I actually have VJ Edgecomb 3 which isn’t an amazing fit for them with Maxey and McCain.

I have no idea what to do with the Pels, so this seems reasonable for them. I don’t think there’s a major game changer at 3 to move up for but Herb Jones is also not breaking the bank to do so

if the Sixers turn that down and take Edgecombe I think I would offer up #4.

#7, Olynyk, Herb for #4, Nurk exp, Salaun (exp if you decline his options)

HornetJail wrote:if the Sixers turn that down and take Edgecombe I think I would offer up #4.

#7, Olynyk, Herb for #4, Nurk exp, Salaun (exp if you decline his options)

I like that for the Hornets

HornetJail wrote:if the Sixers turn that down and take Edgecombe I think I would offer up #4.

#7, Olynyk, Herb for #4, Nurk exp, Salaun (exp if you decline his options)

Yeah, I'd do that for the pels. Herb would be a great back court partner for Lamelo

the_process wrote:Would NOP still be interested if it was 5 and Oubre for 7 for Jones?

I don't think so. I think there's a drop off after 4. The pels can get a similar tier prospect at 5 or 7 so it doesn't make sense to use herb to move up 2 spots

Last time Philly traded the #3 pick ......
Just be ready for those comparisons.