BOS/DET/WAS

[vege]

Boston Out: Sam Hauser
Boston In: Detroit 2028 2nd (Utah have swap rights)

Boston need to shed salary, so Hauser would be the first casuality, which sucks for them, because his salary is good. They get a small asset in the process and 2nds are always welcome to very expensive teams like Boston.

Detroit Out: Simone Fontecchio / Detroit 2028 2nd / NYK 2028 2nd
Detroit In: Sam Hauser

Hauser is who Detroit thought Fontecchio would be. Hauser is locked in long term on a reasonable salary and is young enough to fit with Cade's time line. Fontecchio shot over 40% from 3 for a few months, Hauser have been shooting over 40% from 3 for 4 years and Hauser is a much more reliable defender. Detroit pay the 2nds because there should be competition to acquire Hauser imo.

Washington Out: someone's draft rights or anything irrelevant
Washington In: Simone Fontecchio / NYK 2028 2nd

They get paid to eat Fontecchio's expiring deal. Maybe he will fit better under their system and will shoot well from 3 again, which would make him valuable at the deadline and would allow them to flip him for assets since he is an expiring deal and shooting is premium.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I think Hauser has more value than this.

[oldncreaky]

For BOS: should jump on the chance to drop salary and get a SRP

For DET: great trade

For WAS: might be the wrong destination for Fontecchio. They have 14 players under contract (12 guaranteed), plus 2 FRPs and 1 SRP incoming, and a ton of SRPs in coming years. WAS might want to hold on to their flexibility for a trade that makes a difference and just pass on this move, although it does have a TPE for JV that it could use, and then just cut Fontecchio, so maybe (?). Curious whatny Wizards fans think

It's just really hard to find a home for Fontecchio that makes sense . . .

[psman2]

I think it would likely take 2 2nds to dump Fontecchio 8.3m expiring deal. Or at least max cash with the non premium nyk future 2nd. Easily fixable. I think Hauser very likely gets absorbed into someone's MLE, just a matter of what type of value if any Boston can get back on top of that. Likely will be a few teams offer various 2nd rounder(s) for that privilege, maybe that bad 2nd here is the best offer?

[ReggiesKnicks]

I think it would likely take 2 2nds to dump Fontecchio 8.3m expiring deal. Or at least max cash with the non premium nyk future 2nd. Easily fixable. I think Hauser very likely gets absorbed into someone's MLE, just a matter of what type of value if any Boston can get back on top of that. Likely will be a few teams offer various 2nd rounder(s) for that privilege, maybe that bad 2nd here is the best offer?

I think a 2nd and maybe a couple million should dump him. He isn't a nothing-burger as he can provide 10-15 MPG.

[hugepatsfan]

Hard for me to judge this and any of these similar Hauser dump deals without seeing the full picture. BOS goes from $24M over the 2nd apron here to $14M over it. I don't see them staying over that threshold this year, so something else will need to be done and just off the math of their roster, it will require moving at least one of Tatum/Brown/White/Holiday/Porzingis. And considering injury (Achilles for Tatum, knee for Brown), it's pretty obviously got to be one of the latter 3. As they look to move to a more economically feasible roster moving forward, I expect Hauser is someone they'd have a strong preference to keep considering his production vs salary... and since they'll already have to be making a bigger salary slashing move with one of the starters, it's possible they'd rather dump some of the return there at the cost of sending out 2nds vs. getting a pretty paltry one here.

[Texas Chuck]

I think Hauser has more value than this.

I'm not sure, but if this is his value, Washington should replace the bad 2nd Detroit sends and take Hauser for themselves. And if it costs them 2 2nds I think they should still do it. I know they already have Kispert but shooting is additive and helpful in developing their young talent and this contract would be trivial to move when they are ready to start competing and need better defending wings.

[hugepatsfan]

I think Hauser has more value than this.

I'm not sure, but if this is his value, Washington should replace the bad 2nd Detroit sends and take Hauser for themselves. And if it costs them 2 2nds I think they should still do it. I know they already have Kispert but shooting is additive and helpful in developing their young talent and this contract would be trivial to move when they are ready to start competing and need better defending wings.

To your question of Hauser's value, obviously I'm bias, but I think your last point about "need better defending wings" is why he does have value, IMO because he isn't some you need to move when you need that. Obviously he's not a "stopper" or anything crazy but he's not someone you worry about getting played off the floor. Elite shooters that aren't liabilities defensively on sub-MLE deal has value IMO.

[Texas Chuck]

I think Hauser has more value than this.

I'm not sure, but if this is his value, Washington should replace the bad 2nd Detroit sends and take Hauser for themselves. And if it costs them 2 2nds I think they should still do it. I know they already have Kispert but shooting is additive and helpful in developing their young talent and this contract would be trivial to move when they are ready to start competing and need better defending wings.

To your question of Hauser's value, obviously I'm bias, but I think your last point about "need better defending wings" is why he does have value, IMO because he isn't some you need to move when you need that. Obviously he's not a "stopper" or anything crazy but he's not someone you worry about getting played off the floor. Elite shooters that aren't liabilities defensively on sub-MLE deal has value IMO.

I agree he's fine. But he's probably not a starting caliber defender on an average team without plus defenders at every position like Boston, or at least Washington would want to see that. Not a target, but probably always a bench guy on a contender, same as Kispert. I'd value him over Kispert obviously, but the contract might make him the guy they moved out if need be as Kispert might cost something to unload.

[nate33]

The Wizards are certainly interested in using cap space to buy picks, but I doubt this will be the best offer on the table. I'd wait for a better deal to come along.

[theBigLip]

If Porzingis could stay healthy….

He could really help Detroit. Haven’t watched Hauser play much, but if he can’t play D, I wouldn’t want Detroit to commit to multiple years.

[redslastlaugh]

Boston Out: Sam Hauser
Boston In: Detroit 2028 2nd (Utah have swap rights)

Hauser is more valuable than this imo.

I think the Celtics are more likely to hang on to Sam Hauser and Payton Pritchard than deal them. Sam probably only goes if there is no reasonable alternative.

[vege]

Maybe Detroit sends #37 to Boston and both 2nds to Washington?

I don't think it should be that hard to find a taker for Fontecchio. If asked to do less on offense, I think his shot would improve (not to the 43% he shot before but to 36-37%), and if he is shooting decently, he is at least neutral value on an expiring 8something mil deal.

If Washington doesn't have interest, Utah fans said in a different thread they would love Fontecchio back.

[brackdan70]

I think Hauser has more value than this.

I tend to agree. It really depends how motivated the Cs are to move Hauser( have other options like trading Holiday been exhausted). And also other offers. I think they can get multiple seconds or a highly protected first for Hauser.

[brackdan70]

If Porzingis could stay healthy….

He could really help Detroit. Haven’t watched Hauser play much, but if he can’t play D, I wouldn’t want Detroit to commit to multiple years.

Hauser is a solid defender. Not flashy but very good.

[hugepatsfan]

If Porzingis could stay healthy….

He could really help Detroit. Haven’t watched Hauser play much, but if he can’t play D, I wouldn’t want Detroit to commit to multiple years.

For a couple years now most teams go-to play against BOS has been to get Hauser switched onto their best wing and while he's not a stopper, he's good enough that other teams just having their best player try to ISO him and chuck shots all day has always netted out in BOS's favor. You certainly need to have good defenders around him because smart off ball defensive help and positioning surely is a part of why he's been good for us on that end, but he's not someone who is an inherent risk of getting played off the court or anything. We're talking about a role player signed for role player money (less than MLE) too so it's not like you can expect perfection either. Each team makeup is different so if the top of the roster is weak defensively and needs a stopper than he isn't your guy most likely, but in general he's not someone I'd have any defensive "concerns" about.

[Billl]

I think Hauser has more value than this.

I tend to agree. It really depends how motivated the Cs are to move Hauser( have other options like trading Holiday been exhausted). And also other offers. I think they can get multiple seconds or a highly protected first for Hauser.

This should be an interesting summer. It's going to be the first one where all the new apron rules will come to the forefront and very few teams have cap space. If Boston was taking back salary of some sort, maybe he's worth 2 seconds. I don't think you'll see many teams giving up cap space and picks for him though. I mean, he's a decent role player but he's not a big bargain.

[Snakebites]

The Wizards are certainly interested in using cap space to buy picks, but I doubt this will be the best offer on the table. I'd wait for a better deal to come along.

Yeah, the Pistons always thought that when they were trying to sell cap space.

You can probably get two weak seconds or one semi-decent one for that relatively small amount of cap space, particularly given Fontecchio is expiring. In other words- you can do a bit better than this, but probably not as much as you're thinking.

[TGW]

The Wizards are certainly interested in using cap space to buy picks, but I doubt this will be the best offer on the table. I'd wait for a better deal to come along.

Yeah, the Pistons always thought that when they were trying to sell cap space.

You can probably get two weak seconds or one semi-decent one for that relatively small amount of cap space, particularly given Fontecchio is expiring.

This is an easy no from the Wizards POV. Buying a 2028 SRP outright is a better option than this.

[nate33]

The Wizards are certainly interested in using cap space to buy picks, but I doubt this will be the best offer on the table. I'd wait for a better deal to come along.

Yeah, the Pistons always thought that when they were trying to sell cap space.

You can probably get two weak seconds or one semi-decent one for that relatively small amount of cap space, particularly given Fontecchio is expiring. In other words- you can do a bit better than this, but probably not as much as you're thinking.

The Wizards have done pretty well these past two seasons buying 2nd round picks. They even bought a FRP from Memphis by absorbing Marcus Smart's contract.