Bulls-Jazz EDIT-add OKC

pipfan · Post #1 » by **pipfan** » Mon May 19, 2025 8:43 pm

Chi sends Port pick to OKC and PWill/JCarter (buyout)/#12 to Utah
Chi gets Dieng/Collins/#21

Utah sends Collins/#21 to Chi
Utah gets PWill/JCarter (buyout)/#12/#24

OKC sends #24 to Utah and Dieng to Chi
OKC gets Port pick

OKC saves $/roster spots and moves a 1st to the future (could easily be a #15 pick in the next 3 seasons)

Utah keeps the tank going, adding the #12 to take on PWill (who, in theory, can be salvaged)

Chi clears a bunch of 2026 cap space while getting better for next year (FO/owners against tanking)
White/Ayo/Ball
Giddey/Huerter/Ball
Matas/Phillips/Ball
JCollins/Dieng/#21 (Fleming hopefully)
Vuc/ZCollins/Smith

I would still try to deal Vuc as well

babyjax13 · Post #2 » by **babyjax13** » Mon May 19, 2025 8:45 pm

I would do this. I'm not sure Chicago should be spending assets to dump PWill, though, or at least this much? I'd probably do Clarkson + Svi for PWill + POR 1st.

pipfan · Post #3 » by **pipfan** » Tue May 20, 2025 4:25 am

babyjax13 wrote:I would do this. I'm not sure Chicago should be spending assets to dump PWill, though, or at least this much? I'd probably do Clarkson + Svi for PWill + POR 1st.

I know Chi fans might not like this idea, but the thought of dumping PWill is VERY appealing to me. Our FO won't tank, so this saves us A TON of $ moving forward, and makes us a better team. It'd free up $18 million next summer, plus the added benefit of not having to see JCarter play occasionally.
Also, I think one of these bigs falls to #21 and we can get Newell/Fleming/Sorber/Wolf/Beringer there (on a much cheaper 4 year deal too)

I actually support the Bulls going after Lauri more, but this is another idea

Post #4 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue May 20, 2025 4:23 pm

From an OKC perspective, this feels solid.

AingesBurner · Post #5 » by **AingesBurner** » Tue May 20, 2025 5:58 pm

Utah would rather get its pick back from OKC, so they can keep #24 if Utahs pick is returned.

Dez · Post #6 » by **Dez** » Tue May 20, 2025 11:06 pm

From a Chicago point of view, God no.

What is the goal here? Trading back and dumping assets to get rid of Williams is just a horrendous idea. His contract is bad but it is not crippling bad, Chicago has no reason to trade their pick unless it's a clear upgrade and this is not anywhere close to being near positive for the Bulls.

jordanwilliams6 · Post #7 » by **jordanwilliams6** » Wed May 21, 2025 12:02 am

Terrible for the Bulls.

Let's say Port pick & #21 cancel each other out, we're sending out 12 & PWill for a couple of solid but nothing players. Why do we need to clear cap space? We're acquiring young talent, not throwing away assets.

outlaw81 · Post #8 » by **outlaw81** » Wed May 21, 2025 2:13 am

Don’t understand this trade at all. Why include to 1st rounders from the bulls. Just keep p will and see if he develops at all. Has those picks to potentially find a gem. It’s the only chance the bulls have. Cap space is useless. Most free agents don’t want to come to chi anyways. Stay away from Lauri. Dude is always hurt.