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CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 9:05 pm
by aguiar95
CHI in: Kuzma, worst of NOP/MIL '27 1st swap
CHI out: Vucevic

Why? get a pick for an expiring player that doesn't fit their core's timeline and get a usefull player in a position of need.

Giddey/Ball
White/Dosunmu
Buzelis/#12 (C. Bryant)
Kuzma/Williams
Collins/Smith

MIL in: George, Vucevic.
MIL out: Lillard, Kuzma, worst of NOP/MIL '27 1st swap, #47, '31 MIl 2nd.

Why? Get Giannis a new running mate and a possible competitive team in a last attempt to win a chip.

T. Jones (TP-MLE)/Porter Jr.
Green/Connaughton
George/Jackson Jr.
Giannis/Smith
Vucevic/Portis

PHI in: Lillard, worst of NOP/MIL '27 1st swap, #47, '31 MIl 2nd.
PHI out: George.

Why? Get out of the PG experiment, admit their mistake and clean house for the young blood, have Lillard help mentor Maxey/McCain.

Maxey/McCain
Grimes (Re-signed)/Council IV
Oubre/Bayley (#3)
Yabusele (MLE)/Thiero (#35)
Embiid/Drummond

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 9:31 pm
by tacos
Milwaukee cant trade a 1st until 2031 i think

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 9:41 pm
by ProcessDoctor
No way we are punting next season when we don’t own our pick (unless it lands top-4).

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 11:05 pm
by JimmyPlopper
ProcessDoctor wrote:No way we are punting next season when we don’t own our pick (unless it lands top-4).


I have a different view on this deal from Philly's perspective. Lillard makes only slightly more per year, but George has a whole extra year (when he will be 37 years old) and he doesn't add much impact even now. I think this is a good value upgrade for Philly in that they get out of one of those years of Paul George's contract while somehow being able to add picks.

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 11:24 pm
by meekrab
Lets be honest here Kuzma is not a useful player unless your goal is to lose 60 games.

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 11:28 pm
by Godaddycurse
Milwaukee dont own their 2027 1st

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 11:29 pm
by ProcessDoctor
JimmyPlopper wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:No way we are punting next season when we don’t own our pick (unless it lands top-4).


I have a different view on this deal from Philly's perspective. Lillard makes only slightly more per year, but George has a whole extra year (when he will be 37 years old) and he doesn't add much impact even now. I think this is a good value upgrade for Philly in that they get out of one of those years of Paul George's contract while somehow being able to add picks.


I think last season was an insane outlier for PG. I don't think he's ever going to be an all-star again, but I think he has a good chance of being a 40% 3-point shooter and roughly a +2 BPM type player again.

We've written off similar guys who are roughly the same age or older who have gone on to have productive seasons (Kawhi, Harden, Durant). In other words, I don't think his production will be so bad that we're better off trading for a 34-year-old tiny guard who just tore his achilles.

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:55 am
by the_process
JimmyPlopper wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:No way we are punting next season when we don’t own our pick (unless it lands top-4).


I have a different view on this deal from Philly's perspective. Lillard makes only slightly more per year, but George has a whole extra year (when he will be 37 years old) and he doesn't add much impact even now. I think this is a good value upgrade for Philly in that they get out of one of those years of Paul George's contract while somehow being able to add picks.


Lillard most likely not playing all year when the Sixers aren’t tanking is the problem.

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 2:04 am
by JimmyPlopper
the_process wrote:
JimmyPlopper wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:No way we are punting next season when we don’t own our pick (unless it lands top-4).


I have a different view on this deal from Philly's perspective. Lillard makes only slightly more per year, but George has a whole extra year (when he will be 37 years old) and he doesn't add much impact even now. I think this is a good value upgrade for Philly in that they get out of one of those years of Paul George's contract while somehow being able to add picks.


Lillard most likely not playing all year when the Sixers aren’t tanking is the problem.


I am in favor of moving on from Embiid. not a full tank, but a strategic rebuild around Maxey and McCain

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 2:07 am
by the_process
JimmyPlopper wrote:
the_process wrote:
JimmyPlopper wrote:
I have a different view on this deal from Philly's perspective. Lillard makes only slightly more per year, but George has a whole extra year (when he will be 37 years old) and he doesn't add much impact even now. I think this is a good value upgrade for Philly in that they get out of one of those years of Paul George's contract while somehow being able to add picks.


Lillard most likely not playing all year when the Sixers aren’t tanking is the problem.


I am in favor of moving on from Embiid. not a full tank, but a strategic rebuild around Maxey and McCain


I’d love to trade Embiid.

Morey won’t do that this year.

Re: CHI - MIL - PHI: Keeping Giannis happy, reuniting old friends

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 2:36 pm
by ChettheJet
meekrab wrote:Lets be honest here Kuzma is not a useful player unless your goal is to lose 60 games.


Yes the Bulls want to move Vucevic but not for a longer problematic contract
Kuzma does seem to out up his most impressive numbers on losing teams. I don't think having him start opposite Buzelis does the kid's development any good, Bulls don't need him learning bad/selfish habits, people can hate on Patrick Williams til their ears fall off but he's a team player. I don't even understand the inclusion of the pick swap, are the Bulls just taking whatever pick the Bucks end up with or are they somehow swapping their 27 pick