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DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 4:40 pm
by Mavrelous
MPJ/Nnaji for Middleton/Kispert
WAS take the 26 y/o sharp shooting SF, and young disappointing PF for the veteran and the limited cieling shooter
Nuggets get champinship vet and a bench shooter.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:11 pm
by nate33
Mavrelous wrote:MPJ/Nnaji for Middleton/Kispert
WAS take the 26 y/o sharp shooting SF, and young disappointing PF for the veteran and the limited cieling shooter
Nuggets get champinship vet and a bench shooter.
MPJ is negative value at his salary. The Wizards have no interest in taking on his salary without pick compensation.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:15 pm
by Mavrelous
nate33 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:MPJ/Nnaji for Middleton/Kispert
WAS take the 26 y/o sharp shooting SF, and young disappointing PF for the veteran and the limited cieling shooter
Nuggets get champinship vet and a bench shooter.
MPJ is negative value at his salary. The Wizards have no interest in taking on his salary without pick compensation.
He absolutely is a negative, so is Middleton, to a larger extent, but he still has potential to rebound unlike Middleton.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:19 pm
by nate33
Mavrelous wrote:nate33 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:MPJ/Nnaji for Middleton/Kispert
WAS take the 26 y/o sharp shooting SF, and young disappointing PF for the veteran and the limited cieling shooter
Nuggets get champinship vet and a bench shooter.
MPJ is negative value at his salary. The Wizards have no interest in taking on his salary without pick compensation.
He absolutely is a negative, so is Middleton, to a larger extent, but he still has potential to rebound unlike Middleton.
My bad. I was thinking MPJ's contract was substantially longer than Middleton's. But still, there's the $12M guaranteed that he is owed in 2026-27. And since the Wizards have no real intent to try and win this season because of the protected pick they owe NY, there isn't any incentive for them to do this. It's just giving away Kispert for nothing while taking on a $12M buyout fee and cap hit in 2026-27.
I'd much rather shop Middleton for a worse contract and a pick.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:25 pm
by Mavrelous
nate33 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:nate33 wrote:MPJ is negative value at his salary. The Wizards have no interest in taking on his salary without pick compensation.
He absolutely is a negative, so is Middleton, to a larger extent, but he still has potential to rebound unlike Middleton.
My bad. I was thinking MPJ's contract was substantially longer than Middleton's. But still, there's the $12M guaranteed that he is owed in 2026-27. And since the Wizards have no real intent to try and win this season because of the protected pick they owe NY, there isn't any incentive for them to do this. It's just giving away Kispert for nothing while taking on a $12M buyout fee and cap hit in 2026-27.
I'd much rather shop Middleton for a worse contract and a pick.
It's actually fully guaranteed next year, I think he's a good upside gamble, but I understand the other direction also.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:28 pm
by gswhoops
I don't think this works either way. Washington is too far from contending for MPJ to be worth taking on, and Middleton is fried.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 7:59 pm
by Texas Chuck
gswhoops wrote:I don't think this works either way. Washington is too far from contending for MPJ to be worth taking on, and Middleton is fried.
Mostly where I am. If Middleton looked like he had something left, its a good deal for Denver. I think though with Joker finally speaking up and asking for help, this can't be the move.
For Washington, Porter JR doesn't move the needle enough to justify taking on the extra money in 26/27. Not to mention, I wouldn't want him around my young core guys. Middleton will make a great mentor for a year.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 8:06 pm
by Mavrelous
Yeah, upon feedback, looks like a bad idea, swing and a miss.
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 8:09 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mavrelous wrote:Yeah, upon feedback, looks like a bad idea, swing and a miss.
I feel bad being part of the piling on, but respect for this. All of us who post original ideas miss. Props for hearing feedback and not getting married to it.
You'll figure out the Denver answer (I hope anyway, I haven't been able to....)
Re: DEN/WAS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 9:08 pm
by Lucky Once
If Milwaukee holds onto Giannis, I wonder if this could work as a 3-way with MPJ going to Milwaukee for Dame + draft compensation of some sort?