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Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 5:53 pm
by Astaluego
Trade 1
KINGS
In:Green/J.Smith
Out:Lavine
HOUSTON
In: Lavine
Out:Green/JSmith
Houston needs to consolidate before its prospects get paid. Zach has flaws but can score at stellar volume and efficiency. Lavine surrounded by elite defenders + Udoka could work.
Trade 2
KINGS
In: Clingan/Maxi/Vandervilt /Vincent/#12
Out: Sabonis
a young core..
Ellis/Green/Murray/Smith/Clingan
Carter/Monk/12/LaRavia
They were not even good enough to qualify for the Playoffs, they are rejuvenating and raising their long-term ceiling with pieces that in my opinion fit better,
BLAZERS
In:Sabonis/Knecht
Out:Ayton/Clingan
Simons/Sharpe/Avdija/Cámara/Sabonis
Henderson/Knecht/Thybulle/Grant/R.Williams
This team is a contender in my opinion, young and with a lot of room for growth,
LAKERS
In:Ayton
Out: Vandervilt/Vincent/Maxi/Knecht
They get the center they need, while still retaining their most important assets, for the post-LeBron era.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:03 pm
by Tim Lehrbach
That Blazers team is not a contender, which is why Sabonis is not the right investment. It's obviously an upgrade, so it gives pause, but I think Portland likes what they have in Clingan.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:03 pm
by codydaze
Yeah, I don't see Houston or Portland being very happy about these deals even though I do think Sabonis would be a great fit with the personnel they have in Portland.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:16 pm
by Astaluego
codydaze wrote:Yeah, I don't see Houston or Portland being very happy about these deals even though I do think Sabonis would be a great fit with the personnel they have in Portland.
I think Lavine is a clear improvement over Green or at least he is much more prepared. In the worst case scenario, they would gain future flexibility, since it expires earlier and if it worked, Lavine's next contract would surely be more coherent.Is J.Smith too valuable? Could he be replaced by Brooks/Whitmore?
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:16 pm
by LarsV8
Lavine is not a positive impact player.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:19 pm
by JRoy
Cut POR out of this, thanks.
That team has no future.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:49 pm
by DiegoChara
At that asset cost for Sabonis, I personally would do it for Portland.
I understand the hesitation that it makes them a treadmill team though.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:53 pm
by MoreyWins
Nope. The upgrade of Lavine over Green isn't worth Jabari. I don't think Lavine is worth trying to mold into a playoff caliber go-to scorer.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:55 pm
by MoreyWins
Astaluego wrote:codydaze wrote:Is J.Smith too valuable? Could he be replaced by Brooks/Whitmore?
1. In this deal, yes.
2. Hell to the nah, to the nah, to the nah nah nahhh.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:58 pm
by Astaluego
Because it limits them, they could still make future changes to improve. Sabonis is at his best and would fit perfectly alongside two top-level defensive wings. I think prospects develop much better surrounded by good players, and this trade leaves them with the option of one of Scott/Sharpe becoming their best version and becoming a very good team.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:24 pm
by Xman
$47 mil for aging LaVine?
Hopefully not Houston’s only option.
Green plus filler (team option guys).
No Jabari or prospects.
Pick ten is available but really don’t think it’s necessary.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:35 pm
by LightTheBeam
I love the fit in Portland I've been saying that should be the move for a few months now. I understand Portland fans are split on this, but It's a very low risk move. Sharpe, Scoot, Deni, Camara, Sabonis.
Can't see the Rockets trading for LaVine even if Green sucks. They should look at better options.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:35 pm
by LightTheBeam
Xman wrote:$47 mil for aging LaVine?
Hopefully not Houston’s only option.
Green plus filler (team option guys).
No Jabari or prospects.
Pick ten is available but really don’t think it’s necessary.
I'd be fine with LaVine for Green and whatever filler Houston wanted to offer. I want neither of these guys, but I assume the team could get away playing Green less than they will LaVine.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:45 pm
by tester551
Astaluego wrote:In:Ayton
Out: Vandervilt/Vincent/Maxi/Knecht
For Portland, I don't like the Sibonis/Clingan inclusion.
I might consider this portion of the trade where Ayton goes to Lakers for Vando/Vincent/Maxi/Knecht... IF Portland could find a team to give them value for Vando and Knecht.
Maybe a Blazer/Laker trade like this would be better:
Portland Out:Ayton
Lakers Out: Vanderbilt/Vincent/Finney-Smith
Although I guess it really depends on what type of value Knecht could bring back.
Re: Houston/Kings continue with Blazers/Lakers
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:10 pm
by Apz
tester551 wrote:Astaluego wrote:In:Ayton
Out: Vandervilt/Vincent/Maxi/Knecht
For Portland, I don't like the Sibonis/Clingan inclusion.
I might consider this portion of the trade where Ayton goes to Lakers for Vando/Vincent/Maxi/Knecht... IF Portland could find a team to give them value for Vando and Knecht.
Maybe a Blazer/Laker trade like this would be better:
Portland Out:Ayton
Lakers Out: Vanderbilt/Vincent/Finney-Smith
Although I guess it really depends on what type of value Knecht could bring back.
Why would lakers do that? Imo dfs is the best player in the deal