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Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:52 pm
by jredsaz
Pelicans receive Brad Beal, Dalen Terry
Pels consolidate CJ and Murray into Beal. Beal will fit the roster and with Zion, Murphy and Jones they should be competitive. Shave years off salary.

Suns receive Dejounte Murray, Patrick Williams
Suns get off Beal but take on other team’s problems. Hope Murray will bounce back after his recovery and pair with Book in the Suns backcourt long term.

Bulls receive CJ McCollum
Bulls continue to clear the decks for 2026.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:53 pm
by Godaddycurse
bulls owe value to pelicans and phoenix

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:39 pm
by Texas Chuck
How are you getting Beal to sign off on this?

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:48 pm
by nolaPELSfan
If that was Joe Dumars' first move it would be ground zero

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:51 pm
by jredsaz
Texas Chuck wrote:How are you getting Beal to sign off on this?


Beal said he wants a competitive team and warm weather. I think this checks those boxes. Zion is a super star and the rest of the team is talented (when healthy). I think New Orleans is a possibility if he’s as done with the Suns as I think they are with him. Last year got ugly. No way to be sure.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:52 pm
by jredsaz
nolaPELSfan wrote:If that was Joe Dumars' first move it would be ground zero


Maybe he drafts at #7 first? :lol:

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:54 pm
by nolaPELSfan
jredsaz wrote:
nolaPELSfan wrote:If that was Joe Dumars' first move it would be ground zero


Maybe he drafts at #7 first? :lol:


We gonna let our boy Troy Weaver handle that one haha

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:55 pm
by Texas Chuck
I don't think Beal believes New Orleans is competitive. How could he? Most of the players that made them competitive the two seasons prior to last are gone. Zion isn't dependable. Team is dealing both PG's and Beal understands as well as anyone how much a PG is needed with Phoenix being non-competitive without one.

Maybe, but I'd not have confidence in that.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:56 pm
by KdoubleDees23
jredsaz wrote:Pelicans receive Brad Beal, Dalen Terry
Pels consolidate CJ and Murray into Beal. Beal will fit the roster and with Zion, Murphy and Jones they should be competitive. Shave years off salary.

Suns receive Dejounte Murray, Patrick Williams
Suns get off Beal but take on other team’s problems. Hope Murray will bounce back after his recovery and pair with Book in the Suns backcourt long term.

Bulls receive CJ McCollum
Bulls continue to clear the decks for 2026.


Sign me up! I would take this in a heartbeat for Suns.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:56 pm
by KdoubleDees23
Texas Chuck wrote:I don't think Beal believes New Orleans is competitive. How could he? Most of the players that made them competitive the two seasons prior to last are gone. Zion isn't dependable. Team is dealing both PG's and Beal understands as well as anyone how much a PG is needed with Phoenix being non-competitive without one.

Maybe, but I'd not have confidence in that.


Well Beal isn't competitive, and dude is trash so that fits the bill

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:58 pm
by jredsaz
Godaddycurse wrote:bulls owe value to pelicans and phoenix


You think? Like 2nds or something?

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:00 am
by Texas Chuck
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I don't think Beal believes New Orleans is competitive. How could he? Most of the players that made them competitive the two seasons prior to last are gone. Zion isn't dependable. Team is dealing both PG's and Beal understands as well as anyone how much a PG is needed with Phoenix being non-competitive without one.

Maybe, but I'd not have confidence in that.


Well Beal isn't competitive, and dude is trash so that fits the bill


Posts like this add nothing to the conversation. IF you have nothing of substance to add please just keep your thoughts to yourself.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:04 am
by jredsaz
Texas Chuck wrote:I don't think Beal believes New Orleans is competitive. How could he? Most of the players that made them competitive the two seasons prior to last are gone. Zion isn't dependable. Team is dealing both PG's and Beal understands as well as anyone how much a PG is needed with Phoenix being non-competitive without one.

Maybe, but I'd not have confidence in that.


I’d think Zion, Murphy and Jones is an appealing core. I don’t think they are title contenders but I can see a path to the playoffs with some further roster work. It really depends on how bad his position in Phoenix has become.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 2:30 am
by Dez
Godaddycurse wrote:bulls owe value to pelicans and phoenix


Phoenix isn't owed s***, they're getting off Beal's contract.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 2:35 am
by Godaddycurse
Dez wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:bulls owe value to pelicans and phoenix


Phoenix isn't owed s***, they're getting off Beal's contract.


they're getting more guaranteed/bad money back in return that runs longer

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 2:54 am
by GatherStepGuru
Feels like PHX gets off of Beals contract for free, and even gets a quality pg for their trouble.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:13 am
by Texas Chuck
Dez wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:bulls owe value to pelicans and phoenix


Phoenix isn't owed s***, they're getting off Beal's contract.



I mean Beal can at least play basketball. Murray has been bad and now has a blown Achilles. Williams is just bad.

You have to actually look at the whole deal and not just hur deal Beal. They take on far worse money and for longer. They are absolutely owed value.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:15 am
by Dez
Texas Chuck wrote:
Dez wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:bulls owe value to pelicans and phoenix


Phoenix isn't owed s***, they're getting off Beal's contract.



I mean Beal can at least play basketball. Murray has been bad and now has a blown Achilles. Williams is just bad.

You have to actually look at the whole deal and not just hur deal Beal. They take on far worse money and for longer. They are absolutely owed value.


Williams at 18 million isn't a cap killer, he's not worth his contract but he can play a role.

There is zero reason for Chicago to add value, zero.

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:17 am
by Godaddycurse
GatherStepGuru wrote:Feels like PHX gets off of Beals contract for free, and even gets a quality pg for their trouble.


Wouldnt call anyone with a blown achilles a quality pg until proven post injury

Re: Beal for Murray w/Bulls

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:18 am
by Texas Chuck
I mean Chicago gets a better player on a better contract. They owe value. Now its fine to say hey we'll just sit with this bad contract for 4 more years and hope he gets good, but most teams like upgrading and clearing bad deals. Don't pay something super valuable, but say that Portland 1st? Yeah they should absolutely do that if they could--they probably couldn't.