Boston / Brooklyn / Milwaukee / LA Lakers / Portland - Too Big To Work?

[Karmaloop]

NOTE: This is more of a framework of a trade. Picks(s) and prospect(s) would/should be included.

Boston Celtics Trade:
PG Jrue Holiday

Boston Celtics Receive:
PF Jarred Vanderbilt

Brooklyn Nets Trade:
C Nic Claxton

Brooklyn Nets Receive:
PG Gabe Vincent
PF Maxi Kleber
C Robert Williams
'31 FRP via MIL (Unprotected)

Milwaukee Bucks Trade:
PG Damian Dillard
'31 FRP (Unprotected)

Milwaukee Bucks Receive:
SG Shake Milton
PG Jrue Holiday
PF Rui Hachimura

LA Lakers Trade:
PG Gabe Vincent
SG Shake Milton
PF Maxi Kleber
PF Rui Hachimura

LA Lakers Receive:
PF Jerami Grant
C Nic Claxton

Portland Trailblazers Trade:
PF Jerami Grant
C Robert Williams

Portland Trailblazers Receive:
PG Damian Lillard



WHY IT COULD WORK FOR BOSTON?

They save almost $21M and drops them below the 2nd apron. If Boston is able to unload Kristaps Porzingis this offseason and take back less than $19M they'd get below the luxury tax and reset their repeater status. From a talent perspective, Boston clearly loses something but Jarred Vanderbilt is a good defender with a broken jumpshot signed to a reasonable deal. I think a healthy year out of him, and his value rebounds to where he might actually fetch something decent. Ultimately, Boston gets the financial savings that they need/want.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR BROOKLYN?

The Nets ultimately rent out their cap space, and by so doing they "upgrade" their future by taking a bite at a post-Giannis Milwaukee Bucks' roster. Nic Claxton is ultimately replaceable, and they sacrifice him to get a high variance pick on a team that could teeter either way. They could probably stand for a more stable pick for their cap space, but they should gamble on high-upside picks.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR MILWAUKEE?

The clock is ticking on Milwaukee with respect to Giannis, and they need to make a move now. The problem is they lack young prospects with high upside on the roster, Dame is likely going to miss the entire season, and they don't have a ton of FA flexibility either. They gamble here that Jrue is more likely going to help them in the next 1-2 years and add another depth piece in Hachimura who could be flipped at the deadline.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR THE LA LAKERS?

The Lakers lose ALL their flexibility here, but they get a better fit on the roster with Luka (and LeBron). They get a stretch 4 albeit on a bad contract and a rim protector with some verticality. This deal keeps them below the 2nd apron would allow the nTMLE to be available to them as well.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR PORTLAND?

Honestly, this is probably the part where Portland needs something included, but moving Jeramin Grant's 3 year deal for Dame's 2 year deal. And not to mention, Dame has a much bigger following in Portland so at the very least he puts people back in the seats in Y2.

[JRoy]

Pass for POR.

Not looking to pay Lillard to rehab for his next team plus not looking to help LAL.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

That's 54 and 58 million the next two years for a guy that won't hardly play. Grant has his warts but 34 million for a guy that plays is way more acceptable.

Portland will have a much easier time splitting Grants contract into smaller more easily movable pieces than we could do with Lillard.

[Godaddycurse]

LAL would be hard capped at first apron (more than 100% incoming) and thus make this illegal

[JKiddy]

I appreciate the effort you gave in putting together this complicated trade. But, I see a few issues, including BK accidentally giving away a top 3 player on their team for a 2031 pick (just doesn't make sense), and Lillard kind of temporarily burnt his bridge in POR. For these reasons, I can't see these two teams being involved here. BK and POR would definitely be out.

[Mavrelous]

Claxton isn't worth unporotected 1st, MIL shouldn't pay a 1st for what they are getting.
Lakers shouldn't touch Jerami Grant deal, no one should unless they are sending equally terrible deal.

[Mavrelous]

I see a few issues, including BK accidentally giving away a top 3 player on their team for a 2031 pick (just doesn't make sense)

Top 3 playes on tanking teams usually aren't good, so indeed it doesn't make sense, not to tje direction you think though...

[Norm2953]

I could see new Blazer ownership approving this, especially since insurance would pay most of Dame's contract
for as long as he's out. Dame would serve as a mentor for Scoot while he's sidelined

[Case2012]

I would do it because I'm a huge Dame fan and I think tanking next season is the route to go since we failed to land another star in the draft. This team would be perfect for him when he's healthy. If anyone could come back from this injury and regain 80% of his game or would be worth it.

[tester551]

I could see new Blazer ownership approving this, especially since insurance would pay most of Dame's contract
for as long as he's out. Dame would serve as a mentor for Scoot while he's sidelined

Insurance would cover ~40% of the contract next season. So ~$20M

Dame has to miss 41 consecutive games before insurance pays a dime. After that, they cover 80%

[Norm2953]

I could see new Blazer ownership approving this, especially since insurance would pay most of Dame's contract
for as long as he's out. Dame would serve as a mentor for Scoot while he's sidelined

Insurance would cover ~40% of the contract next season. So ~$20M

Dame has to miss 41 consecutive games before insurance pays a dime. After that, they cover 80%

It's likely Dame is going to miss all of next season and one can imagine new ownership wanting some new
enthusiasm after buying the team.

Unlikely Milwaukee would trade Dame for such little return however

[RiotPunch]

No way in hell I'm trading our '31 1st swap, let alone unprotected for that return.

[ecuhus1981]

Pass for Brooklyn

[tester551]

NOTE: This is more of a framework of a trade. Picks(s) and prospect(s) would/should be included.

Boston Celtics Trade:
PG Jrue Holiday

Boston Celtics Receive:
PF Jarred Vanderbilt

Brooklyn Nets Trade:
C Nic Claxton

Brooklyn Nets Receive:
PG Gabe Vincent
PF Maxi Kleber
C Robert Williams
'31 FRP via MIL (Unprotected)

Milwaukee Bucks Trade:
PG Damian Dillard
'31 FRP (Unprotected)

Milwaukee Bucks Receive:
SG Shake Milton
PG Jrue Holiday
PF Rui Hachimura

LA Lakers Trade:
PG Gabe Vincent
SG Shake Milton
PF Maxi Kleber
PF Rui Hachimura

LA Lakers Receive:
PF Jerami Grant
C Nic Claxton

Portland Trailblazers Trade:
PF Jerami Grant
C Robert Williams

Portland Trailblazers Receive:
PG Damian Lillard



WHY IT COULD WORK FOR BOSTON?

They save almost $21M and drops them below the 2nd apron. If Boston is able to unload Kristaps Porzingis this offseason and take back less than $19M they'd get below the luxury tax and reset their repeater status. From a talent perspective, Boston clearly loses something but Jarred Vanderbilt is a good defender with a broken jumpshot signed to a reasonable deal. I think a healthy year out of him, and his value rebounds to where he might actually fetch something decent. Ultimately, Boston gets the financial savings that they need/want.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR BROOKLYN?

The Nets ultimately rent out their cap space, and by so doing they "upgrade" their future by taking a bite at a post-Giannis Milwaukee Bucks' roster. Nic Claxton is ultimately replaceable, and they sacrifice him to get a high variance pick on a team that could teeter either way. They could probably stand for a more stable pick for their cap space, but they should gamble on high-upside picks.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR MILWAUKEE?

The clock is ticking on Milwaukee with respect to Giannis, and they need to make a move now. The problem is they lack young prospects with high upside on the roster, Dame is likely going to miss the entire season, and they don't have a ton of FA flexibility either. They gamble here that Jrue is more likely going to help them in the next 1-2 years and add another depth piece in Hachimura who could be flipped at the deadline.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR THE LA LAKERS?

The Lakers lose ALL their flexibility here, but they get a better fit on the roster with Luka (and LeBron). They get a stretch 4 albeit on a bad contract and a rim protector with some verticality. This deal keeps them below the 2nd apron would allow the nTMLE to be available to them as well.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR PORTLAND?

Honestly, this is probably the part where Portland needs something included, but moving Jeramin Grant's 3 year deal for Dame's 2 year deal. And not to mention, Dame has a much bigger following in Portland so at the very least he puts people back in the seats in Y2.

I think the only teams that do this are Bucks and Lakers

[JonHeist]

zero interest from the bucks

-jrue's contract is 5x worse than dame's

-we give up our only draft asset

-milton and rui don't move the needle

take the '31 first off the table and it's worth discussing