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Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 8:41 pm
by pipfan
I want us to trade White and rebuild around Giddey/Matas/#12/future picks/cap space, but our FO will want to stay decent-no problem with that direction. We were actually entertaining after the ASB

1. Draft Newell or Fleming (I REALLY want Matas at the 3 and play big
2. trade Port pick for Dieng/#24 (draft BPA, maybe Saraf/Jones/Philon/Clayton?)
3. Trade Vuc to Char for Nurkic/#33 (Char wants to start winning)
4. Buyout JCarter (save a few $ and a roster spot)
5. Let Jones walk (played well, but we're too deep
6. Resign Giddey to declining deal (if possible, while avoiding tax)

Allow Newell/Dieng/PWill/JSmith have an open competition to start at the 4 from training camp

White/Ayo
Giddey/Ball
Matas/Huerter
Newell/Dieng
Collins/JSmith
deep bench of Nurkic, Terry, Phillips, PWill, #24, #33 and #45 on two-way deals

Play as fast as possible again and see what happens. We'd have TONS of 2026 cap space and all our picks to play with. Even with a $20 million Coby cap hold we'd have about $80 million in cap space plus our 2026 pick

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 9:49 pm
by balsamic_ducks
I’d be taking a long approach. Resign Giddey. Extend White if possible. Use all their expiring contracts to take back bad contracts for picks. Aim to be really bad next year and secure a top 5 pick in a strong draft. Enough of picking 10-14. See if Patrick Williams bounces back and try to trade him if so.

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 1:00 am
by ChettheJet
Trading Vucevic to where and for what, I'd say more than some think, less then they should get
Resign Giddey, he does what they need done
I'm looking to get a 2026 or 27 pick not more 2025 picks. I'm looking for 3 way deals with the teams with extra 25 picks send them to teams out of the draft and ending up adding 26 and/or 27 picks. This isn't any kind of magic draft, wait to make extra picks when there are roster spots for them
Not pushing Coby to resign now, makes no sense for ether party

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 11:18 am
by daoneandonly
I mean it seems realistic. The part I cant wrap my brain around is CHarlotte wanting to start winning but then trading for Vuc

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 11:24 am
by Saul Goodman
I see the Bulls being a good Zion landing spot. Giddey/Zion/White/Matas is a good start



#12
Patrick Williams
Zach Collins


For

Zion

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 11:31 am
by jbk1234
daoneandonly wrote:I mean it seems realistic. The part I cant wrap my brain around is CHarlotte wanting to start winning but then trading for Vuc


Nurkic is essentially dead money. I'm low on Vuc, but he's an upgrade and at the cost of No. 33, it seems reasonable enough.

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 11:39 am
by daoneandonly
jbk1234 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:I mean it seems realistic. The part I cant wrap my brain around is CHarlotte wanting to start winning but then trading for Vuc


Nurkic is essentially dead money. I'm low on Vuc, but he's an upgrade and at the cost of No. 33, it seems reasonable enough.


But has he ever helped any team win? Orl wasnt all that good with him and Chi even worse.

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 12:01 pm
by jbk1234
daoneandonly wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:I mean it seems realistic. The part I cant wrap my brain around is CHarlotte wanting to start winning but then trading for Vuc


Nurkic is essentially dead money. I'm low on Vuc, but he's an upgrade and at the cost of No. 33, it seems reasonable enough.


But has he ever helped any team win? Orl wasnt all that good with him and Chi even worse.


The Bulls were a play-in team. I suspect that's all the Hornets, or at least their fans, want. I'd rather make a minor move with No. 33 than have them trade real draft capital in a move that gets them to same place.

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 12:13 pm
by jayjaysee
I think it would be fun for CLT to trade for Zion or AD and try to win while the team is cheap and developing..

But I think paying a second for a vet that will help win a few games is a smarter step. I like that trade for them.

I think if Chicago wants to be more than a play-in squad, they need to bring in another starter this offseason. And that other starter probably has to be one of their three best players? Being generous.. The East is bad. But toronto and Philly will likely both want Chicago’s play-in spot... Maybe Mil does trade Giannis and get their picks back. Maybe Boston does take a tank season. But then maybe Brooklyn ends up with Giannis and maybe Ball/Miller actually stay healthy and develop..

I know the refusal to rebuild isn’t fan driven, but you have to trade for some talent if you’re not going to rebuild..

The OP’s plan sort of looks like a stealth tank for the 10th seed.

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 12:45 pm
by cl2117
I've been curious about Chicago as a potential Porzingis landing spot. Won't cost a lot in terms of assets and they don't need to commit long-term money. So if it works out then great you've got a big upgrade to the roster and if not at least you made some waves at a relatively low low cost.

Bulls eating money in a 3-way trade via that $17m Lavine TPE would be big value to Boston getting to shave money off their books, so that could be all/a bit part of their contribution in a KP/Vuc swap.

The framework being something like (with value to be adjusted accordingly):

CHI: KP, Maxi (via TPE)
LAL: Vuc, Carter
BOS: Vincent

Both Chicago and LA get upgrades at C for eating money essentially, Boston shaves off $20m from the books with the option to shave another $11m off by moving Vincent into a 4th team's TPE or exception.

Re: Realistic Bulls' Offsesaon

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 5:56 pm
by pipfan
I suggested a Vuc to Boston, Ayo to BRK, KP to Chi deal
Bos saves A TON of $ and gets someone who plays nightly
BRK gets a free starter
Chi gets an upgrade at center, and with Collins/JSmith around they can afford for him to miss 30 games