Coby & Vuc to Pels / Missi, Hawkins + to Bulls

[YayBasketball]

* I'm open to constructive input, specifically 3rd team ideas for McCullom. Is this too much or too little for Coby White entering his contract year? I originally left out the Olynk and Huerter inclusion in the trade, but adding them balanced roster opportunities nicely. *Constructive adjustments in value welcomed!


*Pels pick Maluach at 7 as their Center of the future prior to trade.
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Pels trade: McCullom + Missi + Hawkins + Olynyk + '26 IND 1st + '27 CHI 2nd

Bulls trade: White + Vucevic + Huerter

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https://fanspo.com/nba/s/pelicans/trades/yY3NvCKUhSeqVq/maluach-at-7-vet-3pt-shooting-to-pels-rebuild-to-bulls

Pels trade for their guard of the future in White, a young vet on the timeline with Zion, Murphy, Herb and Maluach. They're prepared to give him the 30m/yr contract next offseason if all goes well. They also get a stop gap stretch Center in Vucevic who can open up the lane for Zion drives, and can fill in the starter/mentor role while Maluach develops in a bench role. Huerter adds a vet shooter they hope can bounce back.

Bulls move on from Coby White entering his contract year and also Vucevic, signaling a rebuilding direction to the rejoice of Bulls fans. Missi is a fun rim running, shot challenging big prospect to join Giddey, Matas and their #12 pick. Hawkins is a recent lotto pick who could break out in a new role with more minutes, a la Dyson Daniels. McCullom is an expiring veteran who can fill in a leadership role at SG until the trade deadline, or he can be immediately re-routed if a third team wants him. They get an extra 1st in next year's loaded draft, and there's a chance Pacers have a less than stellar record next season with a Finals run hangover.
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Pels:

* Vucevic/ Maluach/ Karlo
* Zion/
* Herb/
* Murphy/ Huerter
* White/ Jose/ (Murray)

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Bulls:

* Zach/ Missi/ Olynyk
* Matas/
* PatWill/
* McCullom/ Hawkins
* Giddey/r OK 34deryt

[Mavrelous]

I wouldn't give up on Missi becaue of Maluach, but I like the trade on fit and value.

[YayBasketball]

I wouldn't give up on Missi becaue of Maluach, but I like the trade on fit and value.

Yea I get the idea of being stocked at Center, the Gafford/Lively model. But with so many other roster holes, I thought of sending Missi as value to improve another position. Also clearing a path for Maluach as the sole development project big.

Thanks for the feedback, man.

[babyjax13]

I think this is reasonable value but I don't really like New Orleans giving future value for another guard they will have to pay.

[bgrep14]

I’d probably trade Garland and Strus for White and Vuc in a two part trade.

[Mavrelous]

I’d probably trade Garland and Strus for White and Vuc in a two part trade.

You shouldn't

[balsamic_ducks]

Would the bulls do it if you cut it to like Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter? Probably too light. I'd slightly pass on the OP, value isn't bad I just don't think it's the direction the pels should be going. I like the idea of pairing Missi with Maluach and turning the center position into a strength of this team

[ChettheJet]

Would the bulls do it if you cut it to like Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter? Probably too light. I'd slightly pass on the OP, value isn't bad I just don't think it's the direction the pels should be going. I like the idea of pairing Missi with Maluach and turning the center position into a strength of this team

the Bulls like this way more than the original. CJ just puts them back in the same boat they were in with Zach Lavine. Except now CJ will be dominating the ball to show he deserves a new big contract

Olynyk is what he is, he helps Collins and Smith after the real Vuc trade. Hawkins is still potential, what matters is trading 2 guards for just one and getting a future pick. I would pass on MIssi and their 2nd to avoid CJ

[YayBasketball]

Would the bulls do it if you cut it to like Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter? Probably too light. I'd slightly pass on the OP, value isn't bad I just don't think it's the direction the pels should be going. I like the idea of pairing Missi with Maluach and turning the center position into a strength of this team

the Bulls like this way more than the original. CJ just puts them back in the same boat they were in with Zach Lavine. Except now CJ will be dominating the ball to show he deserves a new big contract

Olynyk is what he is, he helps Collins and Smith after the real Vuc trade. Hawkins is still potential, what matters is trading 2 guards for just one and getting a future pick. I would pass on MIssi and their 2nd to avoid CJ

Ok cool, both teams fans liking a simplified version.
Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter

Let's call it in! Wasn't sure if that was enough for White without a prospect like Missi, but Hawkins is young enough to still have some breakout potential like Neismith. Much cleaner without CJ and Vuc involved.

This framework allows a lot more flexibility for Pels with CJ's expiring contract. Can keep him for extra shooting and leadership, or ship him in the offseason or now. Bring in some vet big to 3rd string behind the formidable Missi/Maluach combo. Karlo still in the mix.

[YayBasketball]

Would the bulls do it if you cut it to like Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter? Probably too light. I'd slightly pass on the OP, value isn't bad I just don't think it's the direction the pels should be going. I like the idea of pairing Missi with Maluach and turning the center position into a strength of this team

If Pels draft Maluach and keep Missi, how do you see the starting roles playing out? Missi already has the starting NBA experience, but new front office didn't draft him. Maluach would clearly be the Center of the future drafted so high with much more potential. Guess Missi starts, let Maluach adjust to NBA speed, then at the second half of the year or next season, Maluach takes over the starting role. Tough for Missi to accept a bench role over a guy younger than him while he's trying to still establish himself in the league, but he does seem humble enough to adjust to that.

[jbk1234]

Would the bulls do it if you cut it to like Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter? Probably too light. I'd slightly pass on the OP, value isn't bad I just don't think it's the direction the pels should be going. I like the idea of pairing Missi with Maluach and turning the center position into a strength of this team

If Pels draft Maluach and keep Missi, how do you see the starting roles playing out? Missi already has the starting NBA experience, but new front office didn't draft him. Maluach would clearly be the Center of the future drafted so high with much more potential. Guess Missi starts, let Maluach adjust to NBA speed, then at the second half of the year or next season, Maluach takes over the starting role. Tough for Missi to accept a bench role over a guy younger than him while he's trying to still establish himself in the league, but he does seem humble enough to adjust to that.

Maybe just let the better player start? Also, you could always use Missi in another trade.

[balsamic_ducks]

Would the bulls do it if you cut it to like Olynyk + Hawkins + 26 indy 1st + 27 Bulls 2nd for White + Jevon Carter? Probably too light. I'd slightly pass on the OP, value isn't bad I just don't think it's the direction the pels should be going. I like the idea of pairing Missi with Maluach and turning the center position into a strength of this team

If Pels draft Maluach and keep Missi, how do you see the starting roles playing out? Missi already has the starting NBA experience, but new front office didn't draft him. Maluach would clearly be the Center of the future drafted so high with much more potential. Guess Missi starts, let Maluach adjust to NBA speed, then at the second half of the year or next season, Maluach takes over the starting role. Tough for Missi to accept a bench role over a guy younger than him while he's trying to still establish himself in the league, but he does seem humble enough to adjust to that.

May the best man win. Missi hasn’t earned a starting center spot yet. He was the starting center by default last year on a tanking team

[LightTheBeam]

Pelicans are in one of the strangest position to me. Murphy is one of my favorite young guys and excited to see him with more responsibility this year. Adding the #7 overall. I think the team is young enough that they should take another gap year before trying to win. Let CJ expire, let Dejounte get healthy. Spend the year developing Hawkins, Murphy, #7, Missi to see what you have. Go into 2026 with

Zion, Murphy, #7, Missi, Herb, Murray, 2026 top 10 pick. don't think this trade really changes the trajectory of the team, and probably puts them in a play-in spot with less upside.

[Chi town]

Not interested in trading Coby for late 1sts. Local beat reporters said 7 teams called for Coby at the deadline. He put up 25 numbers after the Lavine trade.

I’d think Coby is worth two 1sts. No way Bulls take on bad salary.

Don’t know why NOLA would draft Maluach with Missi looking so good. Maybe it will be the new FO.

[BigGargamel]

Don’t know why NOLA would draft Maluach with Missi looking so good. Maybe it will be the new FO.

Literally every mock I've seen has Maluach to the Pelicans and I don't understand why. Missi is better. Get another scorer instead.

[Mrakar]

Not really interested in any of the Bulls players. Its always rotation of guys doing solid to good on play-in teams(in the East) and they are not getting you anywere. Look what the Kings did with Lavine and Derozan... Now that they are gone White and Giddey are putting huge numbers. Vucevic has always put 20/10 even made an all star in the east but whole league knows for duration of his career that he is not that good.

Let me rephrase that, i dont want any of them bcs they need to get paid. I would want them on smaller contracts, but White is expected to get like minimum 3 years in 37/40 mil range per year which is awful IMO.

[Chi town]

Don’t know why NOLA would draft Maluach with Missi looking so good. Maybe it will be the new FO.

Literally every mock I've seen has Maluach to the Pelicans and I don't understand why. Missi is better. Get another scorer instead.

Yeah, I think they go Fears if he’s there.

Sounds like Kon may be slipping and Demin is the top 10 guys now.

[Jon1798]

Missi is very very good…..for where he was drafted. He needs to get bigger and stronger. The way in which the guy has improved, I don’t think anything is off the table for him. But the lack of defensive rebounding, not great defense (rookie big), and minimal offense, though not nothing. He’s an A+ backup but probably lower end starter if that makes sense.

[Jon1798]

As to the trade, I have no interest in Coby. We have CJ and Murray coming back. If I’m being honest, I don’t want White on his likely new deal even if given for free. I’m certainly not trading Missi, Hawkins, a first, a second etc for the right to pay him. Similar to Missi, I just think White will always be one of the ten worst starting PG’s in the league. Fair or not.

[Chi town]

As to the trade, I have no interest in Coby. We have CJ and Murray coming back. If I’m being honest, I don’t want White on his likely new deal even if given for free. I’m certainly not trading Missi, Hawkins, a first, a second etc for the right to pay him. Similar to Missi, I just think White will always be one of the ten worst starting PG’s in the league. Fair or not.

Totally understand.

Coby is a SG and plays mostly off ball now. Giddey is our Point Forward.