Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done?

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Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#1 » by louc1970 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:39 pm

Hearing and reading a lot of different opinions on what the Magic need and a great deal of the chatter sits at the Magic need a PG. The desire to get the creativity out of Banchero/Wagner's hands is seen as a positive.

One deal I read was Garland for Suggs and da Silva.

What would a De'Aaron Fox trade look like?
Or maybe Trea Young?
Ja Morant?

Are all of these pretty much the same leaving Orlando?
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Re: Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#2 » by Saul Goodman » Thu May 29, 2025 4:43 pm

They can make a great offer for Trae Young


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Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo
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Re: Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#3 » by Ball4life32 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:49 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:They can make a great offer for Trae Young


KCP
Isaac
Wendell Carter
#16
#24
2026 Phoenix 1st

Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo

Not a great offer at all when the best here are low ceiling assets.
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Post#4 » by Godaddycurse » Thu May 29, 2025 4:56 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:They can make a great offer for Trae Young


KCP
Isaac
Wendell Carter
#16
#24
2026 Phoenix 1st

Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo

Not a great offer at all when the best here are low ceiling assets.


2026 2nd best of WAS/PHX/ORL 1st has good shot of being in the lottery
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Re: Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#5 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:59 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Ball4life32 wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:They can make a great offer for Trae Young


KCP
Isaac
Wendell Carter
#16
#24
2026 Phoenix 1st

Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo

Not a great offer at all when the best here are low ceiling assets.


2026 2nd best of WAS/PHX/ORL 1st has good shot of being in the lottery


I would even go as far as saying there’s a decent chance it’s in the top-10.
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Re: Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#6 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 29, 2025 5:00 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Ball4life32 wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:They can make a great offer for Trae Young


KCP
Isaac
Wendell Carter
#16
#24
2026 Phoenix 1st

Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo

Not a great offer at all when the best here are low ceiling assets.


2026 2nd best of WAS/PHX/ORL 1st has good shot of being in the lottery


Still a low level asset barring double lotto luck though


As to the OP, not sure any of those guys are available and none of them are if this offer is what they are willing to pay. Not to mention financially one of the core 3 would likely have to go out.
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Re: Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#7 » by ReggiesKnicks » Thu May 29, 2025 5:00 pm

I'm not sure they need to. One of Orlando's strengths is their size. Paolo and Wagner are big for 3/4 position and Suggs as your smallest defender has good size.

Adding a smaller point guard hurts some.

With expected growth of Paolo and Wagner and a healthy Suggs, they may have enough playmaking where they can add spacing/shooting which helps bolster their playmaking.

I'd rather Orlando add someone like Tre or Tyus Jones to their bench and use some combination of KCP/Cole Anthony/Goga and one of their 1sts to get someone like Grayson Allen of another shooter who is a + defender.

I don't expect their to be a high level PG available and retaining their assets while developing around their young core makes a lot more sense to me.
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Post#8 » by dms269 » Thu May 29, 2025 5:24 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:They can make a great offer for Trae Young


KCP
Isaac
Wendell Carter
#16
#24
2026 Phoenix 1st

Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo


I don't see Atlanta moving Trae without getting any starter level player or good assets/young piece in return. Someone is going to have to score and it leaves Atlanta without a starting point guard.

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Post#9 » by Astaluego » Thu May 29, 2025 5:40 pm

I don't think Trae is the best option to put next to Paolo/Franz. These guys need the ball to have their best ball. I think a guard who can play off the ball and shoot threes efficiently would be ideal. Maxey would be perfect. I think they have the assets to tempt them. Then Quickley.
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Post#10 » by oldncreaky » Thu May 29, 2025 6:23 pm

Astaluego wrote:I don't think Trae is the best option to put next to Paolo/Franz. These guys need the ball to have their best ball. I think a guard who can play off the ball and shoot threes efficiently would be ideal. Maxey would be perfect. I think they have the assets to tempt them. Then Quickley.


Agree on the playing style of the guard that ORL should add i.e. one that shoots very well and can play off-ball

I also think that trades involving Suggs should be DOA. Even with the PG situation, when Suggs was healthy ORL looked pretty good, and his D at the POA elevated the team's D. If you trade away Suggs you won't appreciably improve ORL unless you've got a top 10 PG coming back -- and that implies a salary cap crunch as soon as the 2026-27 season when Paolo gets his extension.
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Post#11 » by jayu70 » Thu May 29, 2025 6:27 pm

dms269 wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:They can make a great offer for Trae Young


KCP
Isaac
Wendell Carter
#16
#24
2026 Phoenix 1st

Atlanta adds more to their defensive identity and gets more picks for their rebuild on the fly.

Young’s flaws are completely neutralized in Orlando playing with Suggs Wagner and Paolo


I don't see Atlanta moving Trae without getting any starter level player or good assets/young piece in return. Someone is going to have to score and it leaves Atlanta without a starting point guard.

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Post#12 » by psman2 » Thu May 29, 2025 6:34 pm

Astaluego wrote:I don't think Trae is the best option to put next to Paolo/Franz. These guys need the ball to have their best ball. I think a guard who can play off the ball and shoot threes efficiently would be ideal. Maxey would be perfect. I think they have the assets to tempt them. Then Quickley.


I think with better teammates Trae can settle into a plus 3 point shooter. He really hasn't anyone of the caliber of Wagner/Banchero to play off of. Maybe JJ becomes that guy but when you best player is John Collins/Hunter/Bogdan caliber it is not surprising that Trae is taking some ill advised shots. Now he is still going to ball dominate for sure but I could see it work well.

Maxey would be a good target, but I have my doubts that Orlando could pull that off anytime soon. Philly has a few years to sort out their mess before making a decision on him. No premium young guys or real juicy picks from another team to offer, they own picks with that core will be discounted. They have the ammo to trade for him when Philly is ready to deal, but likely not willing to pay the price to pry him away from Morey when he is not looking at selling.
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Re: Who is the best PG option for the Magic and what is the deal to get it done? 

Post#13 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 29, 2025 6:40 pm

Agree with the Trae takes. LaMelo is another option if Charlotte is ready to part with him.

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Post#14 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 29, 2025 6:43 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:I'm not sure they need to. One of Orlando's strengths is their size. Paolo and Wagner are big for 3/4 position and Suggs as your smallest defender has good size.


This is really the crux of it. Do we believe Banchero and Wagner have it in them next year to run a competent offense though them if you give them some better shooting? And do we believe a defense that has been elite without elite players couldn't maintain that if they had a small, skilled PG for teams to target?

And is there a sweet spot where you get a guy who holds up defensively, but adds more playmaking and shot creation? Or does Suggs have another offensive level?

I'm not sold Banchero/Wagner are ready for that by next season so I would absolutely be looking to add a good offensive guard even if I take a step back defensively. But others are likely higher on them as offensive engines than I currently am. And I'm too impatient to wait a couple more years to find out. :D
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Post#15 » by Godaddycurse » Thu May 29, 2025 6:47 pm

what about a White for Suggs+pick(s) idea?
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Post#16 » by Xman » Thu May 29, 2025 6:49 pm

Garland or Vleet if they become available.
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Post#17 » by Skybox » Thu May 29, 2025 6:55 pm

Not really interested in Lamelo or Trae with the ball in their hands and no willingness or ability to play off-ball...
-perfect fit would be Derrick White, because he does it all AND plays defense. Probably not available.
-Austin Reaves, imo, would be great and I think he's marginalized with Luka in town...Luka is a huge Trae (that's a compliment) - you just don't take him off ball. Reaves is overqualified, in terms of court vision and BBIQ, to be a spot up guy for Luka. Reaves could put up big scoring numbers when needed or, on most nights, facilitate with good reads and get Paolo and Franz easier baskets...P&F can iso all day (they have) but having a third individual threat who also has great awareness and vision would just make the offense hum and not be dependent on P&F winding up on the perimeter like Giant Iversons and smash their way through a crowd on every possession - priceless ability to have in your bag for the playoffs, but inefficient as the only path.
-Simons, Coby White, or Sexton...the most likely...just enough PG play to make for a prettier offense, but primarily scoring threats and, especially, shooters from range
-Garland would be great but I don't want to see Suggs 4x a year, next to Mitchell and ORL can't afford to fit Garland in otherwise.
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Post#18 » by hugepatsfan » Thu May 29, 2025 7:02 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:what about a White for Suggs+pick(s) idea?


Tough to work that out. Suggs makes $6.9M more than White next year. If BOS made that swap it means they'd need to shed even further salary in any potential Jrue/Porzingis deals they make which is already an issue for them.

You could do Suggs + picks for White + Pritchard (ORL dumps small salary to a 3rd team just to avoid 1st apron hard cap). But White>Suggs and projects to be for a few more years and Pritchard is obviously a nice piece. So now BOS might have a younger "core" player in Suggs, but they're a thinner team now after a 2 good players for 1. Suggs deal is descending though so it does maybe help a bit longer term payroll wise BOS's long term payroll is actually in good enough shape now.

It's just hard to see it because BOS's goals are probably to shed money now and be contender again when Tatum is back. White/Suggs swap makes BOS more expensive now and probably still a worse team when Tatum is back unless you have an aggressive growth curve for Suggs and/or decline curve for White.
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Post#19 » by Wizenheimer » Thu May 29, 2025 7:18 pm

amazing how all these Orlando-needs-a-guard threads end up pointing to a Blazer guard
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Post#20 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 29, 2025 7:31 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:amazing how all these Orlando-needs-a-guard threads end up pointing to a Blazer guard



they don't really though. Oh I get you want to extract value from Simons pretty desperately, but the Magic have other options. As this thread, and all the others, have perfectly illustrated. Odd take.
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