House Stark and House Baratheon

[zimpy27]

Wolves get Lillard

Bucks get Randle, Conley, DDV, Minott


Wolves take a run at Lillard while his value is down. Lillard may be out for the season but he'll be back eventually and he fits the Wolves needs.

Bucks try to build with depth around Giannis.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Randle is more valuable than Lillard, weird trade.

[Domejandro]

Being honest, I think that this trade would be closer to being reconcilable in the hypothetical world where Damian Lillard doesn't get injured.

It's hard to see Minnesota eating that much salary over two years for a (soon to be) thirty-five year old Point Guard who tore his Achilles' tendon a month ago, especially at the cost of three of their top eight rotational players.

[zimpy27]

Being honest, I think that this trade would be closer to being reconcilable in the hypothetical world where Damian Lillard doesn't get injured.

It's hard to see Minnesota eating that much salary over two years for a (soon to be) thirty-five year old Point Guard who tore his Achilles' tendon a month ago, especially at the cost of three of their top eight rotational players.

Well I'm not sure if Conley has much left, I do think Randle and DDV have reasonable value though and obviously were just part of the KAT trade.

If Lillard injury didn't happen then I think Minny owe a little more value, but I can also see that OP trade is not fair value and Vicks owe more currently.

Would an FRP balance it?

[SkyHook]

Being honest, I think that this trade would be closer to being reconcilable in the hypothetical world where Damian Lillard doesn't get injured.

It's hard to see Minnesota eating that much salary over two years for a (soon to be) thirty-five year old Point Guard who tore his Achilles' tendon a month ago, especially at the cost of three of their top eight rotational players.

Well I'm not sure if Conley has much left, I do think Randle and DDV have reasonable value though and obviously were just part of the KAT trade.

If Lillard injury didn't happen then I think Minny owe a little more value, but I can also see that OP trade is not fair value and Vicks owe more currently.

Would an FRP balance it?

I don't think that the trade is salvageable with one or even multiple picks. It's asking a conference finals team to gut their roster for a player who likely won't suit up at all next year and has little chance of being anywhere near the same player again. In my opinion, it's similar to suggesting the Lakers trade Reaves and Rui for Dejounte Murray, but only in a hypothetical scenario where LA hadn't flamed out in the first round.

[shrink]

I liked the title!

I agree that MIN won’t take a season off after two trips to the WCF. But there is another reason - Tim Connelly doesn’t take seasons off.

When Connelly came to MIN, one of his first moves was the giant Rudy Gobert trade. One of the major complaints about the trade (besides value), was that this was a trade based on Towns’ timeline, when we should make moves based on Ant (and to a lesser extent, Jaden and Naz). Connelly disagreed, and said part of the reason that you do a trade like this is to get Ant into competitive games early in his career. He believes that to properly develop a young star, he needs to experience winning, in the regular season and the playoffs, and the earlier he gets it, the higher his trajectory.

Many Wolves fans disagrees. They had been used to GMs and coaches that embraced tanking to try to find that lottery talent. And with this strategy, MIN had been spinning its wheels for nearly twenty years. Always avoiding tanking may not be the typical, or even correct, GM strategy, but I don’t think a Connelly team will take a step back.

[zimpy27]

I liked the title!

I agree that MIN won’t take a season off after two trips to the WCF. But there is another reason - Tim Connelly doesn’t take seasons off.

When Connelly came to MIN, one of his first moves was the giant Rudy Gobert trade. One of the major complaints about the trade (besides value), was that this was a trade based on Towns, when the timeline should be based on Ant (and to a lesser extent, Jaden and Naz). Connelly disagrees, and said part of the reason that you do a trade like this is to get Ant into competitive games early in his career. He believes that to properly develop a young star, he needs experience winning, in the regular season and the playoffs, and the earlier he gets it, the higher his trajectory.

Many Wolves fans disagrees. They had been used to GMs and coaches that embraced tanking to try to find that lottery talent. And with this strategy, MIN had been spinning its wheels for nearly twenty years. It may not be the typical, or even correct, GM move to avoid tanking seasons, but I don’t think a Connelly team will take a step back.

Minny are still a playoff team with the team though.

Dilly, Ant, McD, Naz, Gobert -- #17, Clark, TSJ, Miller, Garza

That's not including FAs you add in offseason.

You get to give Dilly reps and McD get a bigger role to step up in to

[jbk1234]

I can't imagine any team trading for Dame without serious incentive being attached.

[tcheco]

Theres no way Wolves trade their starting PF and a sixth man for an injured Lillard.
If Lillard didnt get injured in the first place still would look weird, but workable, but a Achilles injury? at his age? with how he had performed before the injury? Bucks will need to eat terrible money to trade Dame

[psman2]

This seems like a last season GOT script when the really jump the shark. IMO this would have to include more incentive than Milw has to add to pull this off. This might have be a fair offer if Dame hadn't torn his Achilles.

[BigGargamel]

Wait. A team coming off back to back WCF's trades one of their best players, and other depth for a guy who won't even play next year. Does OP not know Lillard is injured? What am I missing here?

[wemby]

Does Lillard come with a time machine? Is Nico Harrison taking over the TWolves? Otherwise very hard to make sense of this trade.

[Case2012]

If anyone could come back from this injury i think Lillard could but even Kobe was a shell of himself after, and trading away these players to take a year off is weird. If anything i think Dilly should start next season, i think he has all star scoring potential.

[SkyHook]

If anyone could come back from this injury i think Lillard could but even Kobe was a shell of himself after, and trading away these players to take a year off is weird. If anything i think Dilly should start next season, i think he has all star scoring potential.

Lillard and Kobe were the same age at the time of their injury, both just shy of 35. Dominique was the oldest player, at 32, to look even remotely like his former self following a blown Achilles. Recovery from one is a mixed bag at best.

[JRoy]

Wolves get Lillard

Bucks get Randle, Conley, DDV, Minott


Wolves take a run at Lillard while his value is down. Lillard may be out for the season but he'll be back eventually and he fits the Wolves needs.

Bucks try to build with depth around Giannis.

Love it because my team is not involved.

[SkyHook]

Wolves get Lillard

Bucks get Randle, Conley, DDV, Minott


Wolves take a run at Lillard while his value is down. Lillard may be out for the season but he'll be back eventually and he fits the Wolves needs.

Bucks try to build with depth around Giannis.

Love it because my team is not involved.

We need more threads about Dame returning home.

[JRoy]

Wolves get Lillard

Bucks get Randle, Conley, DDV, Minott


Wolves take a run at Lillard while his value is down. Lillard may be out for the season but he'll be back eventually and he fits the Wolves needs.

Bucks try to build with depth around Giannis.

Love it because my team is not involved.

We need more threads about Dame returning home.

Boo this man.