Giannis to Heat

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Giannis to Heat 

Post#1 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 5:19 am

Bucks receive Bam Adebayo, Andrew Wiggins, #20, 2029 MIA 1st, 2031 MIA 1st, 2026/2028 MIA Swaps
Bucks get Bam and restock their picks. They will have money to build out a roster behind Bam and Wiggins and duck the tax so long as Portis opts out which I expect.

Heat receive Giannis Antetokounmpo
Heat get their superstar and have the cap flexibility and salaries to keep Davion and add talent.
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#2 » by BigGargamel » Sat May 31, 2025 5:47 am

I don't think the whole Heat roster is worth Giannis. Bam is a nice complimentary player, but if he's the headline, the Bucks could easily do better.

Those swaps would be useless, since the Heat will almost assuredly be better than the Bucks. So in actuality, it's two draft picks, and not a single one for four years, when the GM might not even be there anymore.
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#3 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 6:09 am

BigGargamel wrote:I don't think the whole Heat roster is worth Giannis. Bam is a nice complimentary player, but if he's the headline, the Bucks could easily do better.

Those swaps would be useless, since the Heat will almost assuredly be better than the Bucks. So in actuality, it's two draft picks, and not a single one for four years, when the GM might not even be there anymore.


Bucks get #20. The 2028 swap could be interesting and every pick/swap thereafter is 34+ year old Giannis. If the Bucks want more picks in ‘26 and ‘27 (or even this draft) Bam can get them there. Bam to the Spurs for #2+?
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#4 » by One_and_Done » Sat May 31, 2025 6:41 am

Giannis isn't going to the Heat. They don't have enough to trade, and he's not going to ask to go there because it's pointless. If Giannis asks out it will be to a team who can win a title; the Heat wouldn't have enough left after trading for Giannis to win. I'm not sure they'd even have enough if they just added Giannis at the minimum for nothing.
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#5 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 6:50 am

One_and_Done wrote:Giannis isn't going to the Heat. They don't have enough to trade, and he's not going to ask to go there because it's pointless. If Giannis asks out it will be to a team who can win a title; the Heat wouldn't have enough left after trading for Giannis to win. I'm not sure they'd even have enough if they just added Giannis at the minimum for nothing.


I think the OP is pretty reasonable and the East is awful. Heat will have plenty of talent to compete for the finals for the next 3+ years.
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Post#6 » by cjmcallist » Sat May 31, 2025 7:07 am

Feels light for Giannis, no? Though the Heat (and their media team) always insert themselves into the conversation somehow.

I’d also question the competitiveness of the Bucks roster after this trade.
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Post#7 » by VaDe255 » Sat May 31, 2025 7:08 am

I'd say this is probably close to Giannis value which I have around 6-9 FRPS (depending on quality), but who really knows if there is a bidding war what might get paid.
Heat obviously say yes, but why are the Bucks really doing this? Maybe they just flip Bam next (asks the Spurs for #2 + FRP for Bam)?
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#8 » by One_and_Done » Sat May 31, 2025 7:35 am

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One_and_Done wrote:Giannis isn't going to the Heat. They don't have enough to trade, and he's not going to ask to go there because it's pointless. If Giannis asks out it will be to a team who can win a title; the Heat wouldn't have enough left after trading for Giannis to win. I'm not sure they'd even have enough if they just added Giannis at the minimum for nothing.


I think the OP is pretty reasonable and the East is awful. Heat will have plenty of talent to compete for the finals for the next 3+ years.

The Heat will have virtually nothing of note around Giannis.
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#9 » by RiotPunch » Sat May 31, 2025 7:56 am

Yeah, this is DOA.

Bam is a really good player, but he is who he is and has limitations, which is not a player you build a franchise around. And he's 27.
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Post#10 » by JayMKE » Sat May 31, 2025 10:52 am

Another terrible Giannis trade. Bam and Wiggins do nothing for the Bucks, the pick compensation is just bad. Not a playoff team and no way to become one for years. Giannis walking is superior to this trade

If Miami wants Giannis they would probably just position themselves in free agency
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Post#11 » by facothomas22 » Sat May 31, 2025 1:03 pm

This is the starting point for the Heat to involved in the Giannis negotiations at all. This is just enough for the Bucks to maybe entertain doing this if Giannis says the Heat is the only team he's willing to be traded to. Other than that however,unless Bam Adebayo can somehow turn into premium asset that the Bucks would really(like the 2nd pick in the draft or blue chip young prospect for example), I could simply see the Bucks simply holding on to Giannis over settling for this,especially a in a Eastern Conference that has gotten even weaker over the last few weeks.
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Post#12 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 4:54 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Giannis isn't going to the Heat. They don't have enough to trade, and he's not going to ask to go there because it's pointless. If Giannis asks out it will be to a team who can win a title; the Heat wouldn't have enough left after trading for Giannis to win. I'm not sure they'd even have enough if they just added Giannis at the minimum for nothing.


I think the OP is pretty reasonable and the East is awful. Heat will have plenty of talent to compete for the finals for the next 3+ years.

The Heat will have virtually nothing of note around Giannis.


Mitchell, Hero, Anderson, JJJ, Jovic, Highsmith, Ware plus Robinson and Rozier salaries and a ton of apron space. That’s not nothing especially in the East playing alongside Giannis
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Re: Giannis to Heat 

Post#13 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 4:55 pm

JayMKE wrote:Another terrible Giannis trade. Bam and Wiggins do nothing for the Bucks, the pick compensation is just bad. Not a playoff team and no way to become one for years. Giannis walking is superior to this trade

If Miami wants Giannis they would probably just position themselves in free agency


Giannis walking is superior to this trade? :lol:
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Post#14 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 4:57 pm

VaDe255 wrote:I'd say this is probably close to Giannis value which I have around 6-9 FRPS (depending on quality), but who really knows if there is a bidding war what might get paid.
Heat obviously say yes, but why are the Bucks really doing this? Maybe they just flip Bam next (asks the Spurs for #2 + FRP for Bam)?


I think Bam has a lot of value across the league and could be flipped for any number and kind of assets. Mentioned #2 earlier. How many bucks picks could he get out of New Orleans?
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Post#15 » by One_and_Done » Sat May 31, 2025 9:20 pm

jredsaz wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
I think the OP is pretty reasonable and the East is awful. Heat will have plenty of talent to compete for the finals for the next 3+ years.

The Heat will have virtually nothing of note around Giannis.


Mitchell, Hero, Anderson, JJJ, Jovic, Highsmith, Ware plus Robinson and Rozier salaries and a ton of apron space. That’s not nothing especially in the East playing alongside Giannis

That's a bunch of nothing much.
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Post#16 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 9:24 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:The Heat will have virtually nothing of note around Giannis.


Mitchell, Hero, Anderson, JJJ, Jovic, Highsmith, Ware plus Robinson and Rozier salaries and a ton of apron space. That’s not nothing especially in the East playing alongside Giannis

That's a bunch of nothing much.


It fits around Giannis.
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Post#17 » by One_and_Done » Sat May 31, 2025 9:26 pm

jredsaz wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Mitchell, Hero, Anderson, JJJ, Jovic, Highsmith, Ware plus Robinson and Rozier salaries and a ton of apron space. That’s not nothing especially in the East playing alongside Giannis

That's a bunch of nothing much.


It fits around Giannis.

So do 4 mediocre players who play the 1, 2, 3, and 5. That's basically what this new roster is. Low end talent that will not be much value to Giannis.
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Post#18 » by jredsaz » Sat May 31, 2025 9:58 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:That's a bunch of nothing much.


It fits around Giannis.

So do 4 mediocre players who play the 1, 2, 3, and 5. That's basically what this new roster is. Low end talent that will not be much value to Giannis.


Low end talent? Damn. That’s hilarious. There are good players on that roster but you do you.
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Post#19 » by TGW » Sat May 31, 2025 10:01 pm

There’s about 15 teams that could make a better offer than this. Unless he said he wants to go to Miami specifically, it’s not happening.
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Post#20 » by One_and_Done » Sat May 31, 2025 10:02 pm

jredsaz wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
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It fits around Giannis.

So do 4 mediocre players who play the 1, 2, 3, and 5. That's basically what this new roster is. Low end talent that will not be much value to Giannis.


Low end talent? Damn. That’s hilarious. There are good players on that roster but you do you.

The Heat just won 37 games in the Leastern Conference and were swept by a million points. I think it's fair to question how good the players on the team actually are.
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