ATL/CHA/BOS KP, Hauser, Mann

Post #1 » by **djFan71** » Sat May 31, 2025 10:30 am

Not sure of value here for CHA, but I personally like Mann and think his contract is fair.

BOS in: 22, Okogie, Niang, $24.8M in savings
BOS out: KP, Hauser, 28

ATL in: KP, Hauser, 28, Nick Smith Jr
ATL out: Niang, Mann, 22

CHA in: Mann
CHA out: Okogie, Nick Smith Jr (or other cheap matching)

ATL gets 2 really good players for not much.
CHA gets 1 good player for not much, but adds salary this year and following 2.
BOS gets under apron and moves up in the draft.

Post #2 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat May 31, 2025 1:10 pm

I think Charlotte would say we need to move out Josh Green to bring in a slightly better version of him in Mann. That's too much money tied up in two hustle guards.

Not sure Boston deserves to move up here, but I also really struggle to value KP(his talent says he's positive, his health combined with his money say he's not) and Hauser(I think he's neutral to slightly positive?). So maybe that parts okay?

I think the Charlotte part is a tough sell though with Green already rostered.

brackdan70 · Post #3 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 31, 2025 2:06 pm

I like this a lot for Boston, but that probably means it is a little too good.
I think like Chuck said maybe Charlotte needs more.
Does sending 32 to Charlotte even this out? Or maybe a good second next year (the Celtics have one)
I think the Atlanta Boston part is fair but it does assign positive value to KP. He better show up strong Euro Basket this summer for that to happen.
If he is healthy and right he is total cheat code for sure. That Atlanta team could make some noise.

Post #4 » by **djFan71** » Sat May 31, 2025 2:16 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I think Charlotte would say we need to move out Josh Green to bring in a slightly better version of him in Mann. That's too much money tied up in two hustle guards.

Not sure Boston deserves to move up here, but I also really struggle to value KP(his talent says he's positive, his health combined with his money say he's not) and Hauser(I think he's neutral to slightly positive?). So maybe that parts okay?

I think the Charlotte part is a tough sell though with Green already rostered.

Yeah, admittedly CHA situation is a touch beyond me. They can move Green elsewhere, or bow out to be replaced by team X. KP I had as ATL trying for Niang and Mann. 28 and 22 swap was for Hauser value,

Post #5 » by **djFan71** » Sat May 31, 2025 2:19 pm

brackdan70 wrote:I like this a lot for Boston, but that probably means it is a little too good.
I think like Chuck said maybe Charlotte needs more.
Does sending 32 to Charlotte even this out? Or maybe a good second next year (the Celtics have one)
I think the Atlanta Boston part is fair but it does assign positive value to KP. He better show up strong Euro Basket this summer for that to happen.
If he is healthy and right he is total cheat code for sure. That Atlanta team could make some noise.

I feel like paying CHA to take the best player in their part of the deal doesn’t make a ton of sense. Might just need to find a better 3rd team that would value Mann. Or they can trade Grenn elsewhere in a separate move, etc,

brackdan70 · Post #6 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 31, 2025 2:24 pm

djFan71 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:I like this a lot for Boston, but that probably means it is a little too good.
I think like Chuck said maybe Charlotte needs more.
Does sending 32 to Charlotte even this out? Or maybe a good second next year (the Celtics have one)
I think the Atlanta Boston part is fair but it does assign positive value to KP. He better show up strong Euro Basket this summer for that to happen.
If he is healthy and right he is total cheat code for sure. That Atlanta team could make some noise.

I feel like paying CHA to take the best player in their part of the deal doesn’t make a ton of sense. Might just need to find a better 3rd team that would value Mann. Or they can trade Grenn elsewhere in a separate move, etc,

Yeah that’s a fair point. I suppose if Charlotte likes Mann then the original makes sense.

Post #7 » by **djFan71** » Sat May 31, 2025 4:10 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:I like this a lot for Boston, but that probably means it is a little too good.
I think like Chuck said maybe Charlotte needs more.
Does sending 32 to Charlotte even this out? Or maybe a good second next year (the Celtics have one)
I think the Atlanta Boston part is fair but it does assign positive value to KP. He better show up strong Euro Basket this summer for that to happen.
If he is healthy and right he is total cheat code for sure. That Atlanta team could make some noise.

I feel like paying CHA to take the best player in their part of the deal doesn’t make a ton of sense. Might just need to find a better 3rd team that would value Mann. Or they can trade Grenn elsewhere in a separate move, etc,

Yeah that’s a fair point. I suppose if Charlotte likes Mann then the original makes sense.

I wonder if it’s better with Lakers getting Mann and sending Vincent. BOS saves slightly less, but still net $21M. Lakers upgrade Vincent to Mann. The extra years may or may not be good for the, idk.