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Hornets trade: LaMelo/#4 pick
Magic trade: Franz Wagner/#16 pick

Hornets move on from the LaMelo era and get a young wing to build around in Franz who fits well with Miller on the wing. They trade the #4 pick but get the #16 pick in return.

Magic take a chance on a young talented PG in LaMelo Ball if it doesn't work out with his health they got the #4 pick they can add a Ace Bailey or VJ Edgecombe with that core.


Who says no?

Magic don't stay on the phone long enough to get to "No"

I'm not really even interested in pairing Lamelo WITH Franz & Paolo. He's incredibly talented but can't play without the ball, which will be a conflict (same with those that think adding Trae to ORL would be a simple offensive boost)...plus he's definitely got that knucklehead factor - I've got to drive around here, it's bad enough without Lamelo around . Franz, imo, is miles and miles ahead in value and, while that's a significant leap in draft slots...it doesn't matter enough this year (IMO). If it was #2, it'd be a lot more to consider - even then I'd be thinking of flipping Lamelo and plugging in Harper.

Lamelo has HOF level talent and size, maybe he'll figure it all out and his game will mature. But I think Franz is just too versatile and reliable to even consider it now.

Skybox wrote:Magic don't stay on the phone long enough to get to "No"

I'm not really even interested in pairing Lamelo WITH Franz & Paolo. He's incredibly talented but can't play without the ball, which will be a conflict (same with those that think adding Trae to ORL would be a simple offensive boost)...plus he's definitely got that knucklehead factor - I've got to drive around here, it's bad enough without Lamelo around . Franz, imo, is miles and miles ahead in value and, while that's a significant leap in draft slots...it doesn't matter enough this year (IMO). If it was #2, it'd be a lot more to consider - even then I'd be thinking of flipping Lamelo and plugging in Harper.

Lamelo has HOF level talent and size, maybe he'll figure it all out and his game will mature. But I think Franz is just too versatile and reliable to even consider it now.

Lamelo has never had a legit team around him. I think he would thrive playing next to Banchero. Your surroundings matter.

JustBuzzin wrote:

Skybox wrote:Magic don't stay on the phone long enough to get to "No"

I'm not really even interested in pairing Lamelo WITH Franz & Paolo. He's incredibly talented but can't play without the ball, which will be a conflict (same with those that think adding Trae to ORL would be a simple offensive boost)...plus he's definitely got that knucklehead factor - I've got to drive around here, it's bad enough without Lamelo around . Franz, imo, is miles and miles ahead in value and, while that's a significant leap in draft slots...it doesn't matter enough this year (IMO). If it was #2, it'd be a lot more to consider - even then I'd be thinking of flipping Lamelo and plugging in Harper.

Lamelo has HOF level talent and size, maybe he'll figure it all out and his game will mature. But I think Franz is just too versatile and reliable to even consider it now.

Lamelo has never had a legit team around him. I think he would thrive playing next to Banchero. Your surroundings matter.

I don't know...maybe you're right, but he still looks like the crazy kid in the Chino videos, hoisting bad shots and generally inefficient but filling up the highlight reels. I think of him like Jason Williams - you watch his highlight reel and think "why isn't this dude in the Hall of Fame?" until you watch a whole game or three. Will be interesting to see who they add at #4...I really like Tre Johnson there and could see Lamelo (maybe) having multiple reliable finishers to clean up his game a bit and become the best playmaker in the NBA. I think Miller's the real thing and adding another player of his level would certainly help us see what Lamelo really can be.

Any team with aspirations of winning should stay far away from LaMelo.

the value is there, but the Ball's just cant stay healthy. only 50 games once in the past 4 years.

I think LaMelo needs a team with good veterans and a hard nose coach. Houston seems perfect imo.

Orlando doesn’t have the stomach for the potential and likely antics/distractions LaMelo brings.

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think LaMelo needs a team with good veterans and a hard nose coach. Houston seems perfect imo.

Orlando doesn’t have the stomach for the potential and likely antics/distractions LaMelo brings.

Melo has never played with another true superstar sidekick. Most of his teams have been trash tbh.

I feel like Orlando is a winning situation for him.

you cant get value for a guy that can't stay on the bench. Lamelo has a lot to prove

JustBuzzin wrote:

Skybox wrote:Magic don't stay on the phone long enough to get to "No"

I'm not really even interested in pairing Lamelo WITH Franz & Paolo. He's incredibly talented but can't play without the ball, which will be a conflict (same with those that think adding Trae to ORL would be a simple offensive boost)...plus he's definitely got that knucklehead factor - I've got to drive around here, it's bad enough without Lamelo around . Franz, imo, is miles and miles ahead in value and, while that's a significant leap in draft slots...it doesn't matter enough this year (IMO). If it was #2, it'd be a lot more to consider - even then I'd be thinking of flipping Lamelo and plugging in Harper.

Lamelo has HOF level talent and size, maybe he'll figure it all out and his game will mature. But I think Franz is just too versatile and reliable to even consider it now.

Lamelo has never had a legit team around him. I think he would thrive playing next to Banchero. Your surroundings matter.

I don’t necessarily like the value of the OP trade (I don’t think the gap between Franz and LaMelo is worth that much of a drop).

But I would 100% be trying to buy low on Ball if Charlotte was trying to sell him. I doubt they will but I’m buying the stock. His situation has been absolutely abysmal since entering the league.

JustBuzzin wrote:

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think LaMelo needs a team with good veterans and a hard nose coach. Houston seems perfect imo.

Orlando doesn’t have the stomach for the potential and likely antics/distractions LaMelo brings.

I feel like Orlando is a winning situation for him.

Not at this price.

LaMelo is a buy-LOW target that’s comes with a lot of risk. I don’t see many teams emptying the bank for him with all things considered.

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:

JustBuzzin wrote:

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think LaMelo needs a team with good veterans and a hard nose coach. Houston seems perfect imo.

Orlando doesn’t have the stomach for the potential and likely antics/distractions LaMelo brings.

I feel like Orlando is a winning situation for him.

Not at this price.

LaMelo is a buy-LOW target that’s comes with a lot of risk. I don’t see many teams emptying the bank for him with all things considered.

Does the #4 pick hold no value?

LaMelo+VJ or Ace seems worth it.

JustBuzzin wrote:

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:

JustBuzzin wrote:
I feel like Orlando is a winning situation for him.

Not at this price.

LaMelo is a buy-LOW target that’s comes with a lot of risk. I don’t see many teams emptying the bank for him with all things considered.

Does the #4 pick hold no value?

LaMelo+VJ or Ace seems worth it.

Good stuff...but not Franz-level stuff

Orlando would never do this. Franz Wagner is untouchable. Lamelo doesn't hold this much value, unfortunately for CHA. I would not even trade Suggs in package to Lamelo. He is just a negative value player at this point.

JB2 wrote:Any team with aspirations of winning should stay far away from LaMelo.

100%

i'm not remotely interested in doing this from Charlotte's side either, so glad we're all in agreement here

JustBuzzin wrote:

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:

JustBuzzin wrote:
I feel like Orlando is a winning situation for him.

Not at this price.

LaMelo is a buy-LOW target that’s comes with a lot of risk. I don’t see many teams emptying the bank for him with all things considered.

Does the #4 pick hold no value?

LaMelo+VJ or Ace seems worth it.

No value to a team looking to compete sooner than later and is one of the youngest teams in the league (with x4 picks in this draft and owns all their future pick).

If I was Charlotte I would be interested in pairing Black with Miller and Edgecomb. Get high IQ players in and try to change the identity of the Hornets. Develop from within and stress continuity.

I’d say this is reasonable if Ball could stay healthy. But he can’t, so it’s not.

Unless wagner can get his three point shot respectable, I’d have no interest in making him one of the pillars of my team

Mr Loggins wrote:Unless wagner can get his three point shot respectable, I’d have no interest in making him one of the pillars of my team

While I do agree insofar that I hope Franz is working on his 3 point shot, this is an absolutely ridiculous take. Franz has been incredible on both sides of the ball this year.