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Lakers get: Allen and Okoro

Cavs get: Hachimura + Knecht + Vincent + 2028 1st round pick swap + 2030 1st round pick swap

Why for Lakers?
-Get the rim-running big that they need.
-Get a 3 and D wing they could wedge between Luka and Reaves.

Why for Cavs?
-They save around 34 million in salary off the books in Summer of 2026.
-Rui > Allen in terms of a more natural fit to complement Mobley, who moves to center. Rui is a pure power forward and one of the better three-point shooters in the NBA.
-Knecht could serve as a potential shooting guard replacement for Garland. He is also on a cost-controlled rookie deal.
-Three point shooting drastically improves for this team, which complements Mitchell/Mobley.
-Vincent is filler, but is a good veteran backup PG.
-Cavs also obtain the two swaps, which could be valuable by then. Luka will be in early 30s.

Cleveland cant aggregate

Take out Okoro and Vincent then it’s somewhat close. Cavs would have to send Okoro to a team for TPE first to get under the second apron to do this trade.

Fine for Lakers and I'd even take out Okoro, I just want Allen LOL.

Godaddycurse wrote:Cleveland cant aggregate

I did the trade on spotract works fine?

Godaddycurse wrote:Cleveland cant aggregate

Cleveland aren’t a 1st apron team tho mate, it works before the end of season.

Donkedave wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Cleveland cant aggregate

Cleveland aren’t a 1st apron team tho mate, it works before the end of season.

season already ended mate for apron purposes

Donkedave wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Cleveland cant aggregate

Cleveland aren’t a 1st apron team tho mate, it works before the end of season.

Am I reading this right?

Easy no for Cleveland. The Lakers just don’t have much Cleveland would want. The deal would need to include Reaves going to a 3rd team and that value going to Cleveland.

Godaddycurse wrote:

Donkedave wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Cleveland cant aggregate

Cleveland aren’t a 1st apron team tho mate, it works before the end of season.

season already ended mate for apron purposes

Where this info from mate? Haven’t seen this anywhere as yet.

Donkedave wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

Donkedave wrote:
Cleveland aren’t a 1st apron team tho mate, it works before the end of season.

season already ended mate for apron purposes

Where this info from mate? Haven’t seen this anywhere as yet.

You literally cannot trade a player until the new league year starts, at which point 2025-26 salaries are in play.

DowJones wrote:Easy no for Cleveland. The Lakers just don’t have much Cleveland would want. The deal would need to include Reaves going to a 3rd team and that value going to Cleveland.

Reaves, Knecht, and 2 pick swaps is entirely too much for Jarrett Allen. Unless you think very little of Reaves.

DowJones wrote:Easy no for Cleveland. The Lakers just don’t have much Cleveland would want. The deal would need to include Reaves going to a 3rd team and that value going to Cleveland.

Well it depends on some factors imo:

-How much do the Cavs want to save money? Even with the trade being only Rui + Knecht for Allen, the Cavs end up paying Knecht only $4,201,080 in 2026-2027, compared to paying Allen $28,000,000. That is quite a significant savings. Then, they also get the pick swaps to sweeten the deal. It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for both teams tbh.

-How do they feel about continuing to move forward with the two-big lineup? They also must be upset about how the playoffs went, and understandably so. Mobley spreads the floor pretty well for a big, but spreading the floor are Rui and Knecht's forte, so you really cant go wrong with this trade, especially if your backs are against the proverbial wall financially.

mcfly1204 wrote:

Donkedave wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:
season already ended mate for apron purposes

Where this info from mate? Haven’t seen this anywhere as yet.

You literally cannot trade a player until the new league year starts, at which point 2025-26 salaries are in play.

This new rule from last year is it?

Donkedave wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:

Donkedave wrote:
Where this info from mate? Haven’t seen this anywhere as yet.

You literally cannot trade a player until the new league year starts, at which point 2025-26 salaries are in play.

This new rule from last year is it?

No, because it’s not the rule. You can trade the day your season ends.

The rule that prevents the trade is that any apron restrictions also apply immediately. You make a deal that caps you at the 2nd apron before the league year ends, you’re capped in the next league year.

Karmaloop wrote:

DowJones wrote:Easy no for Cleveland. The Lakers just don’t have much Cleveland would want. The deal would need to include Reaves going to a 3rd team and that value going to Cleveland.

Reaves, Knecht, and 2 pick swaps is entirely too much for Jarrett Allen. Unless you think very little of Reaves.

If a 3rd team wants to give a ton of value for Reaves, and that value is sent to Cleveland for Allen, I am all ears.

Absent Reaves going to a 3rd team, the Cavs and Lakers aren’t good trade partners.

scoobs07 wrote:

DowJones wrote:Easy no for Cleveland. The Lakers just don’t have much Cleveland would want. The deal would need to include Reaves going to a 3rd team and that value going to Cleveland.

Well it depends on some factors imo:

-How much do the Cavs want to save money? Even with the trade being only Rui + Knecht for Allen, the Cavs end up paying Knecht only $4,201,080 in 2026-2027, compared to paying Allen $28,000,000. That is quite a significant savings. Then, they also get the pick swaps to sweeten the deal. It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for both teams tbh.

-How do they feel about continuing to move forward with the two-big lineup? They also must be upset about how the playoffs went, and understandably so. Mobley spreads the floor pretty well for a big, but spreading the floor are Rui and Knecht's forte, so you really cant go wrong with this trade, especially if your backs are against the proverbial wall financially.

You don’t think Cleveland could do better than Knecht and Rui for Allen? Heck, I like Rui more than most and I wouldn’t consider it.

Cleveland also doesn’t have to get under the second apron until the off-season of 2027.

Honestly, the Lakers should go back to Charlotte and they to get that Mark Williams deal done.

DowJones wrote:

scoobs07 wrote:

DowJones wrote:Easy no for Cleveland. The Lakers just don’t have much Cleveland would want. The deal would need to include Reaves going to a 3rd team and that value going to Cleveland.

Well it depends on some factors imo:

-How much do the Cavs want to save money? Even with the trade being only Rui + Knecht for Allen, the Cavs end up paying Knecht only $4,201,080 in 2026-2027, compared to paying Allen $28,000,000. That is quite a significant savings. Then, they also get the pick swaps to sweeten the deal. It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for both teams tbh.

-How do they feel about continuing to move forward with the two-big lineup? They also must be upset about how the playoffs went, and understandably so. Mobley spreads the floor pretty well for a big, but spreading the floor are Rui and Knecht's forte, so you really cant go wrong with this trade, especially if your backs are against the proverbial wall financially.

You don’t think Cleveland could do better than Knecht and Rui for Allen? Heck, I like Rui more than most and I wouldn’t consider it.

Cleveland also doesn’t have to get under the second apron until the off-season of 2027.

Honestly, the Lakers should go back to Charlotte and they to get that Mark Williams deal done.

Well, Allen will be making around 30M that offseason, and then 32M the offseason after that, so you do have that.

scoobs07 wrote:

DowJones wrote:

scoobs07 wrote:Well it depends on some factors imo:

-How much do the Cavs want to save money? Even with the trade being only Rui + Knecht for Allen, the Cavs end up paying Knecht only $4,201,080 in 2026-2027, compared to paying Allen $28,000,000. That is quite a significant savings. Then, they also get the pick swaps to sweeten the deal. It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for both teams tbh.

-How do they feel about continuing to move forward with the two-big lineup? They also must be upset about how the playoffs went, and understandably so. Mobley spreads the floor pretty well for a big, but spreading the floor are Rui and Knecht's forte, so you really cant go wrong with this trade, especially if your backs are against the proverbial wall financially.

You don’t think Cleveland could do better than Knecht and Rui for Allen? Heck, I like Rui more than most and I wouldn’t consider it.

Cleveland also doesn’t have to get under the second apron until the off-season of 2027.

Honestly, the Lakers should go back to Charlotte and they to get that Mark Williams deal done.

Well, Allen will be making around 30M that offseason, and then 32M the offseason after that, so you do have that.

The Cavs will have a ton of money coming off the books that summer. I think the only 3 players we have are on guaranteed deals are Garland, Mobley, and Allen.

If Cleveland is going to trade Allen this summer, it will be entirely driven by making the team better. It won’t be to save money. If LA wants to get Allen, the Cavs will make them pay through the nose. It’s probably not going to be worth it to you. You won’t find a discount from a team trying to get to the NBA Finals next year.

DowJones wrote:

scoobs07 wrote:

DowJones wrote:
You don’t think Cleveland could do better than Knecht and Rui for Allen? Heck, I like Rui more than most and I wouldn’t consider it.

Cleveland also doesn’t have to get under the second apron until the off-season of 2027.

Honestly, the Lakers should go back to Charlotte and they to get that Mark Williams deal done.

Well, Allen will be making around 30M that offseason, and then 32M the offseason after that, so you do have that.

The Cavs will have a ton of money coming off the books that summer. I think the only 3 players we have are on guaranteed deals are Garland, Mobley, and Allen.

If Cleveland is going to trade Allen this summer, it will be entirely driven by making the team better. It won’t be to save money. If LA wants to get Allen, the Cavs will make them pay through the nose. It’s probably not going to be worth it to you. You won’t find a discount from a team trying to get to the NBA Finals next year.

I thought the trade both improved the Cavs and saved them money. But, you are saying the latter is something that doesn't matter to them.