BOS / DAL / LAL / ATL / CHA / SAC / BRK

[hugepatsfan]

That's right - a SEVEN team deal. Truth is, this could be broken down to several smaller deals but the all in one generated some TPEs for BOS so I went with that.

BOS gives: Jrue, Porzingis, Hauser, 2 future 2nds
BOS gets: Klay, Vanderbilt

Why? This deal gets BOS below not just the 2nd apron but below the luxury tax. Mechanically, that allows them to acquire Vandy using the MLE they will have opened up and Klay using salary matching with Hauser. Therefore, they generate TPEs for the full value of Jrue and KP that they can stash for next year when, with Tatum back, they'll presumably want to be pushing for titles again and probably have some willingness to go back into the tax. This does set them up to be able to avoid the tax again next year too though if they want to reset repeater rates. On the court, Klay/Vandy can at least take some of Jrue/KP minutes and last year's 1st rounder Schierman seems capable of taking a stab at Hauser's role.

DAL gives: Klay, Gafford, Prosper
DAL gets: Jrue

Why? Upgrade at PG. Ideal fit for them once Kyrie is back and obviously still a good player to have until then. They send out more than they take in so avoid cap at first apron, but they have further roster reconfiguration to do after this. But it's just a first step to get a guy who might arguably be the best non-Giannis player dealt this offseason for pretty much nothing assets wise, obviously due to the contract.

LAL gives: Vandy, Knect
LAL gets: Gafford

Why? Get an ideal center with Luka and shed multi year money to extend him. The combo of adding Gafford and shedding Vandy's contract justifies Knect inclusion, IMO.

ATL gives: fake 2nd
ATL gets: Nurkic, Knecht

Why? Use their big TPE for Nurkic to get Knecht. They could use more wing scoring so Knecht is a nice guy to add with 3 rookie years for leveraging their TPE and favorable tax position. Nirkic is a big expirng to use in deadline or other offseason deals and does fill a functional role for them at center too.

CHA gives: Nurkic, Okogie, 2 future 2nds
CHA gets: Porzingis

Why? Expiring money for a big upside gamble. They seem like a team that wants to push for playoffs so this is a low cost swing for that.

SAC gives: nothing
SAC gets: Hauser

Why? Use their MLE to TPE for the type of lethal off ball shooter that pays well off Sabonis. Think of Doug McDermott in the IND days, except Hauser isn't a sieve defensively.

BRK gives: fake 2nd
BRK gets: Okogie, Prosper, 2 future BOS 2nds, 2 future CHA 2nds

Why? Sell cap space for picks.

[daoneandonly]

Too good for the Lakers IMO. Knect is JAG and JV is injury prone, very limited offensively, and overpaid

[brackdan70]

Overall it seems alright Value wise.
Sac makes out really good, should they send some value?
Would BRK take on Salary for four seconds? Maybe.
Would Charlotte really want Porzingis?

[Texas Chuck]

Lot of teams but can't find any serious issues for any of them. The logic and value all seem right.

[hugepatsfan]

Overall it seems alright Value wise.
Sac makes out really good, should they send some value?
Would BRK take on Salary for four seconds? Maybe.
Would Charlotte really want Porzingis?

I think Hauser definitely fetches value with salary attached to him but absorbing him outright usually gets a discount in NBA trades. Maybe they should take back Prosper as the "price" for Hauser? Not a bad flier for them either, fills a positional need at least.

That kind of addresses your BRK issue. One benefit is that Okogie fits into the room exception I believe, so they don't even have to dip into the cap space for this.

I think CHA would take Porzingis for this. East is wide open so I expect them to at least try to push for a play in appearance this year with some decent pieces already in place. They're not good enough to give value for win now players, but trading expiring salary that's not very good for the upside of Porzingis at next to no asset costs seems like a good balance of trying to improve without fully operating in "win now" mode either.

[Godaddycurse]

last thing sacramento needs is another SG, even if he is a good shooter. They already have Monk/Lavine/DDR whose best position is SG w/ Ellis/Carter needing minutes at the guard spots. They are also much closer to the tax and still have gaping hole in the front court to address. i have them saying no.

[hugepatsfan]

Too good for the Lakers IMO. Knect is JAG and JV is injury prone, very limited offensively, and overpaid

Agreed on JV, but part of why I have BOS getting off "clean" assets wise is taking him back. I'm higher on Knecht than you I guess, which means you probably have this as bad for ATL as well as too good for LAL. So maybe some 2nds go into that?

[hugepatsfan]

last thing sacramento needs is another SG, even if he is a good shooter. They already have Monk/Lavine/DDR whose best position is SG w/ Ellis/Carter needing minutes at the guard spots i have them saying no.

Hauser is a 6'8" F, not another SG... part of why I think he's a good fit. He's really a SF who can play some small ball PF.

Hauser into a TPE can probably be subbed to another team though. I've seen SAC fans suggest it which is why I went with them, but feels easily transferrable.

[Godaddycurse]

last thing sacramento needs is another SG, even if he is a good shooter. They already have Monk/Lavine/DDR whose best position is SG w/ Ellis/Carter needing minutes at the guard spots i have them saying no.

Hauser is a 6'8" F, not another SG... part of why I think he's a good fit. He's really a SF who can play some small ball PF.

Hauser into a TPE can probably be subbed to another team though. I've seen SAC fans suggest it which is why I went with them, but feels easily transferrable.

my bad, for some reason i thought he was 6'6" and played wing on Celtics. I guess this is okay if kings have a trade lined up for a forward elsehwere.

[Texas Chuck]

If Kings would prefer Marshall I'd take Hauser for Dallas. Kings seem willing to send Dallas some 2nds there too. Would also send Martin with whatever 2nds Dallas could scrounge up and take Hauser. Dallas needs shooting and adding Jrue and Flagg, they could sacrifice some wing defense to get it.

[jayjaysee]

I feel like Brooklyn is getting paid really well here and there should be a way to cut them out and spread that value around.

The rest I think makes sense. Just think you could cut Brooklyn out and make the value look better for the other teams. Say Niang to Charlotte into MLE, Okogie/Prosper to Atlanta.. Now Boston keeps their seconds..

Don’t love Nurk in Atlanta, but understand they’re getting paid decently for it.

[cl2117]

Relatively reasonable all around but I’ve got value off in the margins for most of the teams (although realistically that’s ultimately how most NBA trades actually end up looking like).

Lakers are getting off too light. Getting off Vandy’s 3 year deal and getting a starting C should cost more than Knecht. Replace Vandy with Maxi and I think they’re in the right spot (although I can then see Lakers fans saying it’s an overpayment but they don’t really have assets in between so that’s just the way the cookie crumbles).

Charlotte get a pretty bang-up deal here. They take on under $4m in additional expiring money, get a far far better player than they guys they’re sending out and it only costs 2nds? Appreciate KP is mercurial but that just feels too good to be true when they’re not taking on any longer-term money/eating extra expiring money or sending out anything of value apart from the 2nds.

Hauser to SAC for free is quite literally a gift. They have to be kicking in some sort of value or just get removed altogether.

BRK also get too good a deal. They’re taking on 4 seconds for eating under $11m in salary of which $7.7m is expiring and $3m is a 2023 1st round pick who has been a bust so far but probably still too soon to write off entirely.

It’s really interesting, it seems like there is a really wide divide in terms of expectations for the cost of eating money under the new CBA and I think teams themselves are still adjusting so there isn’t even a good litmus test available because things are still evolving. I don't think it's going to ultimately end up costing as much as others do to eat expiring money, but I guess time will tell.

[DNP-Old]

I like it. I don't think Boston owes the 2nds, but I guess they are there to satisfy the Nets. As for LAL I would like to cut out SAC and take Hauser. LAL could send Maxi to the Nets along with a top 8-10(ish) '31 1st and receive #26 & #27 (or sub in #36 for one of them if that is more appropriate).

[brackdan70]

last thing sacramento needs is another SG, even if he is a good shooter. They already have Monk/Lavine/DDR whose best position is SG w/ Ellis/Carter needing minutes at the guard spots. They are also much closer to the tax and still have gaping hole in the front court to address. i have them saying no.

Hauser is more of a big Wing/SF that can play PF in a pinch

[Rich4114]

Yes from Charlotte, no questions asked

[ThePigeon]

So basically for BOS:
BOS gives: Jrue, Porzingis, Hauser, 2 future 2nds
BOS gets: Klay, Vanderbilt

You trade 3 very able players + 2 2nds for Klay and Vanderbilt


Jrue alone is better than both combined
Resounding NO

[Nate the Great]

Needs a couple more teams. Maybe put the Globetrotters in there.

[hugepatsfan]

So basically for BOS:
BOS gives: Jrue, Porzingis, Hauser, 2 future 2nds
BOS gets: Klay, Vanderbilt

You trade 3 very able players + 2 2nds for Klay and Vanderbilt


Jrue alone is better than both combined
Resounding NO

They shed $44M in salary this year to go from far in the 2nd apron to below the tax altogether. Also shed about $15M next year to position themselves to duck the tax again which means resetting the repeater rates. I understand that's not super exciting as a fan, but you can't dismiss it. That's very real consideration for actual NBA teams.

This deal also sets them up pretty well going forward. A year without Tatum and Holiday/Porzingis/Hauser downgraded to Klay/Vanderbilt/Scheierman should give them a pretty solid 2026 pick. They'll be out of the 2nd apron so their future pick trading restrictions ease up for next offseason ahead of the 26-27 season. The modest money that Klay/Vanderbilt make combined with future draft capital and/or a good 2026 pick puts them in very solid position to make trade upgrades next year while still avoiding the tax again to reset the repeater rate in Tatum's first year back. And then beyond that, in 27-28 and beyond, the burden of the tax and 2nd apron repeater penalties will be clear and all the money saved can be reinvested into younger pieces around Tatum/Brown/White via trade.

[hugepatsfan]

If Kings would prefer Marshall I'd take Hauser for Dallas. Kings seem willing to send Dallas some 2nds there too. Would also send Martin with whatever 2nds Dallas could scrounge up and take Hauser. Dallas needs shooting and adding Jrue and Flagg, they could sacrifice some wing defense to get it.

Definitely a possibility. I tried to keep it as simple as I could with a 7 teamer but lots of room to work on the DAL side. AD/Flagg/Lively/Marshall/Washington/Martin/Powell is a very front court heavy roster with just Jrue/Hardy/Williams in the backcourt until Kyrie is back. Understand Hauser doesn't necessarily move that depth from front court to the backcourt but it does diversify skill sets.

I could have worked it here, but I really like the idea of PJ/Hardy for Monk between SAC/DAL if the Mavs do acquire Jrue.

[JMAC3]

I don't see Boston doing this deal, I get the apron, tpe stuff but still at the end of the day they get virtually nothing for 2 starters, hard sell to that fanbase imo. Hauser also has a decent amount of value on that contract, probably worth at least the 27th pick in this draft.