MEM - PHI

esvl · Post #1 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:06 pm

PG
#3

for

Bane
Clarke
Vince Williams Jr.
1st 2026 (lottery protected)

76s moved from PG and his contract, get a young star and a couple of rotational players.

Memphis brings veteran to play while Wells is still on a rookie contract and draft VJ who looks like a great player next to Ja.

Godaddycurse · Post #2 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:16 pm

i think Bane/filler is already worth more than PG/3

psman2 · Post #3 » by **psman2** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:17 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:i think Bane/filler is already worth more than PG/3

Agreed, but bigger issue is Philly doesn't really need a SG with McCain set to take over that spot.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #4 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:29 pm

I don't see Philly targeting a SG/undersized wing in a trade of PG13 and #3.

Post #5 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:42 pm

My issue here remains the same -- Embiid is just too big of a question mark. If he wasn't and the Sixers thought Bane would help a bunch more than PG then we can start arguing value or see if there is a way to balance it for Philly.

But I just don't think they should trade 3 for an expensive veteran when the resulting team isn't a contender unless Embiid is an MVP level player for enough of the season to get you in the tournament and healthy throughout a playoff run. And sadly I don't think Philly can moves planning on those things.

wemby · Post #6 » by **wemby** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:44 pm

Embiid is not a question mark, it's a resounding answer that people just don't want to hear.

esvl · Post #7 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:53 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:I don't see Philly targeting a SG/undersized wing in a trade of PG13 and #3.

As if the are many good size elite wings available out there

louc1970 · Post #8 » by **louc1970** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:55 pm

psman2 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:i think Bane/filler is already worth more than PG/3

Agreed, but bigger issue is Philly doesn't really need a SG with McCain set to take over that spot.

I disagree from the standpoint of size.
Maxey and McCain are going to be issues on defense much like Mitchell/Garland. Philly has to get some size in the backcourt.

Jojothewhale · Post #9 » by **Jojothewhale** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:03 pm

Even if attaching PG to 3 was a good idea (it is not), they're not trading that package for a guy that makes the backcourt playing time situation even worse at the cost of a Wing. They need more Wings and less Guards. This hurts in the long term and doesn't really help in the short term.

You'd need to combine it with some kind of other move where McCain or Maxey goes out and a true Wing comes back or it makes zero sense.

Godaddycurse · Post #10 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:07 pm

Jojothewhale wrote:Even if attaching PG to 3 was a good idea (it is not), they're not trading that package for a guy that makes the backcourt playing time situation even worse at the cost of a Wing. They need more Wings and less Guards. This hurts in the long term and doesn't really help in the short term.

You'd need to combine it with some kind of other move where McCain or Maxey goes out and a true Wing comes back or it makes zero sense.

george/3 to memphis
bane to NYK
OG to Philly

could make sense as the bones of a trade if philly think embiid is healthy (unlikely)

ReggiesKnicks · Post #11 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:20 pm

esvl wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:I don't see Philly targeting a SG/undersized wing in a trade of PG13 and #3.

As if the are many good size elite wings available out there

Your argument is Philadelphia should trade for a talent who isn't a roster fit because they can?

daoneandonly · Post #12 » by **daoneandonly** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:24 pm

Dont think Bane has this kind of value, and im one of his biggest supporters

Jojothewhale · Post #13 » by **Jojothewhale** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:00 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Jojothewhale wrote:Even if attaching PG to 3 was a good idea (it is not), they're not trading that package for a guy that makes the backcourt playing time situation even worse at the cost of a Wing. They need more Wings and less Guards. This hurts in the long term and doesn't really help in the short term.

You'd need to combine it with some kind of other move where McCain or Maxey goes out and a true Wing comes back or it makes zero sense.

george/3 to memphis
bane to NYK
OG to Philly

could make sense as the bones of a trade if philly think embiid is healthy (unlikely)

Yeah, we agree on Embiid sadly.

That at least makes much more sense. But if they were that in love with OG, why didn't the same front office with the same stars go in hard on him when he was available from Toronto? How do you spin the PR of trading 3 and saving money to get him now? I don't know that Morey is on solid ground right now.

esvl · Post #14 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:10 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
esvl wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:I don't see Philly targeting a SG/undersized wing in a trade of PG13 and #3.

As if the are many good size elite wings available out there

Your argument is Philadelphia should trade for a talent who isn't a roster fit because they can?

My argument is that there is no option to get an elite full-size wing for that price

facothomas22 · Post #15 » by **facothomas22** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:22 pm

I'm not convinced the 76ers should trading Desmond Bane at all. They already got Jaren McCain, Tyrese Maxey and Quentin Grimes. Desmond Bane would another guard on the team and he would take away from McCain development. I also think adding Paul George to the deal is a sneaky way for Grizzlies to ask the 76ers to pay a top 3 pick for a move that doesn't help them get any closer to being a contender. This trade is DOA.

the_process · Post #16 » by **the_process** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:23 pm

I don't think we're going to agree on the value of PG+3 if OG alone is a proposed return.

As far as the OP is concerned, the protection on that MEM 1st would have to be lowered.

hugepatsfan · Post #17 » by **hugepatsfan** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:29 pm

If PHI is truly putting blinders on and aiming to win now around Embiid, then this is probably fair enough value. Maybe make it a 3 team with another star (Markannen?) since Bane not the most ideal fit for PHI's roster.

However, I think PHI should refrain from anything like this. PG may have had a bad year, but I don't really believe he's toast. I'd just pick at #3 and gamble that if Embiid ever stayed healthy PG would also be motivated and bounce back himself too. Or maybe midyear if it's looking like Embiid is ready and PG is toast you can do this sort of trade then.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #18 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 7:14 pm

esvl wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
esvl wrote:As if the are many good size elite wings available out there

Your argument is Philadelphia should trade for a talent who isn't a roster fit because they can?

My argument is that there is no option to get an elite full-size wing for that price

Then their best move is hope PG13 can stay healthy and draft BPA at #3.

youngcrev · Post #19 » by **youngcrev** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 7:46 pm

I'd do this for the Sixers :dontknow:

I think Paul George's demise is greater over exaggerated on the forum in general... But Bane's a better player, in the prime of his career, and making like 15M less annually.

Unless Harper slips, there's nobody I'm that infatuated with at 3 that would make me pass this up.

It makes the Sixers a better team with less cap and health issues.

I may be higher on Bane and lower on 3 than consensus (although I do keep hearing that 3 isn't worth anymore than [insert spot someone's team is picking])

zaz102 · Post #20 » by **zaz102** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 7:53 pm

If Philly had blinders on, they'd be going after Giannis for Maxey + 3 or KD for less, not Bane or OG. If they want to rebuild around Maxey or buy time until they can see what Embiid looks like, like they should keep #3. Better off taking a swing than having trying to run Maxey and Bane out there as your best players.