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CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:10 pm
by bpcox05
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CHI Gets: Terry Rozier & Jaime Jaquez
CHI Gives: Zach Collins & Lonzo Ball
Why for CHI? The Bulls sell off Ball who will be 28 at the start of next season for the 24 year old Jaquez who still has 2 years left on his rookie deal and can be a part of their rebuild/retool.

PG - White / Rozier / Carter
SG - Dosonmu / Huerter
SF - Giddey / Jaiquez / Terry
PF - Williams / Buzelis / Phillips
C - Vucevic / Smith

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DAL Gets: Malik Monk
DAL Gives: PJ Washington & Jaden Hardy
Why for DAL? With the Mavs being able to start a frontcourt of Flagg, Davis, & Lively with Marshall & Gafford off the bench, Washington becomes expendable. With Irving rehabbing from his injury, Monk gives them another scorer, ball handler, & playmaker to help carry their offense. Even when Irving is back, Monk can share the floor with him (similar to what he did with Fox) knowing the Mavs still have an elite defensive frontcourt to cover for them.

PG - Irving / Monk / Williams
SG - Thompson / Christie
SF - Flagg / Martin
PF - Davis / Marshall / Prosper
C - Lively / Gafford / Powell

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MIA Gets: DeMar DeRozan & Jaden Hardy
MIA Gives: Terry Rozier & Jaime Jaquez
Why for MIA? The Heat move someone who has fallen out of their rotation/fallen out of favor with Spoelstra and get another go-to scorer & playmaker to help take some pressure off of Herro & Adebayo.

PG - Mitchell
SG - Herro / DeRozan / Hardy / Larsson
SF - Wiggins / Highsmith / Robinson
PF - Ware / Jovic / Anderson / Johnson
C - Adebayo / Love

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SAC Gets: Zach Collins, PJ Washington, & Lonzo Ball
SAC Gives: DeMar DeRozan & Malik Monk
Why for SAC? Washington is a terrific at PF next to Sabonis. He’s big, long, athletic, a good defender, pretty good rim protector, good floor spacer, and can help with a bit of scoring. He’ll also only be 27 at the start of next season so he could be a solid long term-ish player for them. Ball gives them a much needed PG who can help run the offense while also spacing the floor and improving the defense. Collins is a really just a filler to match salaries, but it does open the door to moving Valanciunas for a bench wing/forward or 2nd(s) since I do think Collins could fill that backup C role (and I do think he’s a better defender than Valanciunas).

PG - Ball / Carter
SG - LaVine / Ellis / Davis
SF - Murray
PF - Washington / Jones
C - Sabonis / Valanciunas / Collins

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Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:14 pm
by Godaddycurse
Think Hardy should go to sacramento instead of miami

its basically 2 separate trades here

Derozan = zach + lonzo = rozier + JJJ

and

PJ + hardy = Monk

Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:18 pm
by BBallFreak
Miami cuts everyone but Chicago out and takes Ball and Collins.

Pg: Ball / Mitchell
Sg: Herro / Larsson
Sf: Wiggins / Highsmith
Pf: Bam / Jovic / Anderson
Cc: Ware / Collins

Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:19 pm
by jayjaysee
Think Dallas owes their last couple seconds in they want to add Hardy (have Monk worth a bit more than PJ in general though).. And I think that might help whoever gets stuck with Hardy. He’s not that bad of value, just bad..

Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:22 pm
by Mavrelous
I have PJ worth significantly more than Monk, but Mavs put themselves in a tough situation roster wise...
If PJ doesn't take max extension offer, I'd pull the trigger.

Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:34 pm
by Texas Chuck
if jay is right on PJ v Monk, jay is right that Dallas owes value. If Khalil is right on PJ v Monk, then godaddy is right that the Kings should be the team taking him. Which solves Freak's issue.

I think Chicago owes some value either way.

Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:31 pm
by ChettheJet
Not for the Bulls who are looking to move Vucevic, not the expiring Collins who was a better piece for them post deadline. If you're so concerned about having 28 year old Lonzo Ball around, the older Vucevic really needs to go. The Bulls would rather have Ball as the veteran influence than Rozier.

So you know Buzelis starts at the 4, Williams off the bench
I think Huerter starts at the 2 with Dosunmu to the bench

Do you notice how Rozier and Carter both come off the bench and are close to the same player? But Carter is 1/3 the cost of Rozier. If Jaquez isn't starting it's not worth giving up an expiring center to get him

Re: CHI - DAL - MIA - SAC

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2025 4:33 pm
by Astaluego
ChettheJet wrote:Not for the Bulls who are looking to move Vucevic, not the expiring Collins who was a better piece for them post deadline. If you're so concerned about having 28 year old Lonzo Ball around, the older Vucevic really needs to go. The Bulls would rather have Ball as the veteran influence than Rozier.

So you know Buzelis starts at the 4, Williams off the bench
I think Huerter starts at the 2 with Dosunmu to the bench

Do you notice how Rozier and Carter both come off the bench and are close to the same player? But Carter is 1/3 the cost of Rozier. If Jaquez isn't starting it's not worth giving up an expiring center to get him
ok..how does the Caruso/Giddey trade (Where Caruso was clearly the better player at the time of the trade) or the Lavine for Collins/Huerter trade fit into your narrative where not only is Lavine the better player by a huge margin, but Collins is pretty redundant with Vucevic...I think it's pretty clear that the Bulls are prioritizing youth/Flexibility over winning a couple of games here and there and it fits into what they're doing