Suns/Magic with possible Mavs spin off

Post #1 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 8:54 pm

Cole Anthony/#25 to Suns
Jett Howard to any team that will take him, Orlando includes cash if need be, Suns kick in #52 if need be
Grayson Allen to Magic

If Suns are trading KD for enough win now stuff they are continuing to compete this becomes a 3 team deal with Gafford going to Phoenix and Anthony and 28 going to Dallas.

Magic need shooting desperately. Allen can really shoot and not just corners, but above the break, and off the move, and he can attack closeouts. I know Hauser has been tied to them here a bunch but Allen is more accurate and more versatile, just a better player and worth getting at this price imo.

Suns either pick up another asset for a guy whose role got cut by the Beal addition or if they want to keep competing they flip a slightly worse asset and get a center they need.

Dallas has no real need for Anthony though he's better than Hardy/Williams in that emergency small scoring combo guard role, but they pick up something towards the future or as an asset towards actual guard help.

jredsaz · Post #2 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 9:10 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Cole Anthony/#25 to Suns
Jett Howard to any team that will take him, Orlando includes cash if need be, Suns kick in #52 if need be
Grayson Allen to Magic

If Suns are trading KD for enough win now stuff they are continuing to compete this becomes a 3 team deal with Gafford going to Phoenix and Anthony and 28 going to Dallas.

Magic need shooting desperately. Allen can really shoot and not just corners, but above the break, and off the move, and he can attack closeouts. I know Hauser has been tied to them here a bunch but Allen is more accurate and more versatile, just a better player and worth getting at this price imo.

Suns either pick up another asset for a guy whose role got cut by the Beal addition or if they want to keep competing they flip a slightly worse asset and get a center they need.

Dallas has no real need for Anthony though he's better than Hardy/Williams in that emergency small scoring combo guard role, but they pick up something towards the future or as an asset towards actual guard help.

Can I turn Greg Anthony into WCJ or Goga?

Post #3 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 9:14 pm

jredsaz wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Cole Anthony/#25 to Suns
Jett Howard to any team that will take him, Orlando includes cash if need be, Suns kick in #52 if need be
Grayson Allen to Magic

If Suns are trading KD for enough win now stuff they are continuing to compete this becomes a 3 team deal with Gafford going to Phoenix and Anthony and 28 going to Dallas.

Magic need shooting desperately. Allen can really shoot and not just corners, but above the break, and off the move, and he can attack closeouts. I know Hauser has been tied to them here a bunch but Allen is more accurate and more versatile, just a better player and worth getting at this price imo.

Suns either pick up another asset for a guy whose role got cut by the Beal addition or if they want to keep competing they flip a slightly worse asset and get a center they need.

Dallas has no real need for Anthony though he's better than Hardy/Williams in that emergency small scoring combo guard role, but they pick up something towards the future or as an asset towards actual guard help.

Can I turn Greg Anthony into WCJ or Goga?

Greg? No. Cole? Maybe? I'm not sold on Goga personally and wouldn't trade Allen for him as the return and I don't think you get 25 and Goga. If you prefer WCJ to Gafford/moving up(due to style and/or contract) or pick 25 I'd do that as Orlando and backfill center, but not sure what Orlando would actually do.

jredsaz · Post #4 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 9:27 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Cole Anthony/#25 to Suns
Jett Howard to any team that will take him, Orlando includes cash if need be, Suns kick in #52 if need be
Grayson Allen to Magic

If Suns are trading KD for enough win now stuff they are continuing to compete this becomes a 3 team deal with Gafford going to Phoenix and Anthony and 28 going to Dallas.

Magic need shooting desperately. Allen can really shoot and not just corners, but above the break, and off the move, and he can attack closeouts. I know Hauser has been tied to them here a bunch but Allen is more accurate and more versatile, just a better player and worth getting at this price imo.

Suns either pick up another asset for a guy whose role got cut by the Beal addition or if they want to keep competing they flip a slightly worse asset and get a center they need.

Dallas has no real need for Anthony though he's better than Hardy/Williams in that emergency small scoring combo guard role, but they pick up something towards the future or as an asset towards actual guard help.

Can I turn Greg Anthony into WCJ or Goga?

Greg? No. Cole? Maybe? I'm not sold on Goga personally and wouldn't trade Allen for him as the return and I don't think you get 25 and Goga. If you prefer WCJ to Gafford/moving up(due to style and/or contract) or pick 25 I'd do that as Orlando and backfill center, but not sure what Orlando would actually do.

Showing my age on that one. I’m a big fan of WCJ and would move Allen for him. I’d like a pick back but would probably settle for WCJ and a flyer on Howard.

BlazersBroncos · Post #5 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 9:48 pm

jredsaz wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Can I turn Greg Anthony into WCJ or Goga?

Greg? No. Cole? Maybe? I'm not sold on Goga personally and wouldn't trade Allen for him as the return and I don't think you get 25 and Goga. If you prefer WCJ to Gafford/moving up(due to style and/or contract) or pick 25 I'd do that as Orlando and backfill center, but not sure what Orlando would actually do.

Showing my age on that one. I’m a big fan of WCJ and would move Allen for him. I’d like a pick back but would probably settle for WCJ and a flyer on Howard.

Allen for WCJ
KCP + Goga + Black for Gobert
Cole + JI + 16 for Simons + Reath

G - Suggs / Simons / Joseph
G - Allen / Simons / Harris
F - Wagner / Da Silva / Harris
F - Paolo / Mo / Fleming
C - Gobert / Fleming (25) / Reath

tiderulz · Post #6 » by **tiderulz** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:50 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Greg? No. Cole? Maybe? I'm not sold on Goga personally and wouldn't trade Allen for him as the return and I don't think you get 25 and Goga. If you prefer WCJ to Gafford/moving up(due to style and/or contract) or pick 25 I'd do that as Orlando and backfill center, but not sure what Orlando would actually do.

Showing my age on that one. I’m a big fan of WCJ and would move Allen for him. I’d like a pick back but would probably settle for WCJ and a flyer on Howard.

Allen for WCJ
KCP + Goga + Black for Gobert
Cole + JI + 16 for Simons + Reath

G - Suggs / Simons / Joseph
G - Allen / Simons / Harris
F - Wagner / Da Silva / Harris
F - Paolo / Mo / Fleming
C - Gobert / Fleming (25) / Reath

Orlando passes on Gobert.