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Denver out: Nnaji, Saric, Tyson, 2031 1st
Denver in: PJ

Brooklyn trade: 19, 26
Brooklyn receive: Saric, Tyson, DEN 2031 1st

Chicago trade: White
Chicago receive: Hardy, OMP, 19, 26

Dallas trade: PJ, Hardy, OMP
Dallas receive: White, Nnaji

Why for Denver: upgrade front court rotation
Why for Brooklyn: roll forward asset
Why for Chicago: get 2 1sts for white
Why for Dallas: add a scorer

Maybe sub martin for hardy/omp if dallas wants to save more money

Getting off the contracts of Saric and Nnaji might be worth it, but watch that pick a million years from now wind up in the top five. If they can lottery protect it, seems like a no brainer to me.

BigGargamel wrote:Getting off the contracts of Saric and Nnaji might be worth it, but watch that pick a million years from now wind up in the top five. If they can lottery protect it, seems like a no brainer to me.

They definitely can't do that because it can't roll(or can it roll to 32 now?), but it can't be protected so strongly a team ends up with nothing, or a 2nd rounder. Now they probably could put catastrophic protection on it, Top 1, maybe top 2?

Now I don't think they should trade the pick the way they would have to for PJ Washington, but if they were going to protections would be minimal if at all.

At which point Dallas should cut everyone else out and take the pick and the contracts.

Texas Chuck wrote:

BigGargamel wrote:Getting off the contracts of Saric and Nnaji might be worth it, but watch that pick a million years from now wind up in the top five. If they can lottery protect it, seems like a no brainer to me.

They definitely can't do that because it can't roll(or can it roll to 32 now?), but it can't be protected so strongly a team ends up with nothing, or a 2nd rounder. Now they probably could put catastrophic protection on it, Top 1, maybe top 2?

Now I don't think they should trade the pick the way they would have to for PJ Washington, but if they were going to protections would be minimal if at all.

At which point Dallas should cut everyone else out and take the pick and the contracts.

they should if they are trading AD, but they want to win so PJ/Coby based trade it is..

Godaddycurse wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:

BigGargamel wrote:Getting off the contracts of Saric and Nnaji might be worth it, but watch that pick a million years from now wind up in the top five. If they can lottery protect it, seems like a no brainer to me.

They definitely can't do that because it can't roll(or can it roll to 32 now?), but it can't be protected so strongly a team ends up with nothing, or a 2nd rounder. Now they probably could put catastrophic protection on it, Top 1, maybe top 2?

Now I don't think they should trade the pick the way they would have to for PJ Washington, but if they were going to protections would be minimal if at all.

At which point Dallas should cut everyone else out and take the pick and the contracts.

they should if they are trading AD, but they want to win so PJ/Coby based trade it is..

Even if they want to win they should cut everyone else out. That pick is more valuable than White. They still decide they want White make an offer without using it.

The Bulls have 14 contracts right now and you want them to add 2 3rd or 4th string veterans and 3 rookies. Do you really think these things through?

ChettheJet wrote:The Bulls have 14 contracts right now and you want them to add 2 3rd or 4th string veterans and 3 rookies. Do you really think these things through?

You can have up to 20 in offseason so ya i did

The value is there for Denver but I just don't think Denver can justify trading it's last 1st rd pick for a 1 year rental in PJ Washington. I'd prefer Klay Thompson who has 2 more years on his deal.

CHI should cut BK and take the high variance pick.
Closest comp to PJ is Aaron Gordon, I think they can use the 2 but not optimal.
Mavs do this.

Denver should 100% do this, especially if Brucee B comes back, then those 2 can backup everything from 2 to 4 and they bring a lot of thoughness which Denver lacks.
On the other side i dont think it would work since im pretty sure that one pick is just about enough to get rid of Nnaji, Saric and Tyson. Remember Denver traded 4 2nds to get rid of Reggie Jackson...**** Calvin Booth man...
Also, i dont think Dallas would help a contending team in the West.

Still nice trade proposal, gj.

The Mavs gives away too much for too little.

ChettheJet wrote:The Bulls have 14 contracts right now and you want them to add 2 3rd or 4th string veterans and 3 rookies. Do you really think these things through?

The Bulls aren’t committed to anything on their roster outside of (probably) Giddey and Buzelis.

How many contracts they have at the beginning of the offseason is irrelevant.

I don't understand why you're so fixated on roster spots for a dumpster fire of a roster?

Mrakar wrote:Denver should 100% do this, especially if Brucee B comes back, then those 2 can backup everything from 2 to 4 and they bring a lot of thoughness which Denver lacks.
On the other side i dont think it would work since im pretty sure that one pick is just about enough to get rid of Nnaji, Saric and Tyson. Remember Denver traded 4 2nds to get rid of Reggie Jackson...**** Calvin Booth man...
Also, i dont think Dallas would help a contending team in the West.

Still nice trade proposal, gj.

There is a big difference with Jackson trade. Nuggets traded him for cap space, clearing $5M off the books. Saric and Tyson are positive assets in trades, not as players, but expiring contracts. I think Dallas would be more than happy to trade Kley as one poster sugested, but then Denver would have to take 1st out, because Dallas would have only $7M on books next season instead of Klay's $17M.

BelgradeNugget wrote:

Mrakar wrote:Denver should 100% do this, especially if Brucee B comes back, then those 2 can backup everything from 2 to 4 and they bring a lot of thoughness which Denver lacks.
On the other side i dont think it would work since im pretty sure that one pick is just about enough to get rid of Nnaji, Saric and Tyson. Remember Denver traded 4 2nds to get rid of Reggie Jackson...**** Calvin Booth man...
Also, i dont think Dallas would help a contending team in the West.

Still nice trade proposal, gj.

There is a big difference with Jackson trade. Nuggets traded him for cap space, clearing $5M off the books. Saric and Tyson are positive assets in trades, not as players, but expiring contracts. I think Dallas would be more than happy to trade Kley as one poster sugested, but then Denver would have to take 1st out, because Dallas would have only $7M on books next season instead of Klay's $17M.

Then Mavs have no reason to trade Klay, I'm not saying DEN should pay a 1st for him, but we have no use of these 3 Nuggets players. At least Klay is still a serviceable player, Zeke is basically deadweight and his contract is 1 year longer than Klay.
It's an easy pass without draft compensation.

ACMFFL wrote:

BelgradeNugget wrote:

Mrakar wrote:Denver should 100% do this, especially if Brucee B comes back, then those 2 can backup everything from 2 to 4 and they bring a lot of thoughness which Denver lacks.
On the other side i dont think it would work since im pretty sure that one pick is just about enough to get rid of Nnaji, Saric and Tyson. Remember Denver traded 4 2nds to get rid of Reggie Jackson...**** Calvin Booth man...
Also, i dont think Dallas would help a contending team in the West.

Still nice trade proposal, gj.

There is a big difference with Jackson trade. Nuggets traded him for cap space, clearing $5M off the books. Saric and Tyson are positive assets in trades, not as players, but expiring contracts. I think Dallas would be more than happy to trade Kley as one poster sugested, but then Denver would have to take 1st out, because Dallas would have only $7M on books next season instead of Klay's $17M.

Then Mavs have no reason to trade Klay, I'm not saying DEN should pay a 1st for him, but we have no use of these 3 Nuggets players. At least Klay is still a serviceable player, Zeke is basically deadweight.

Question is does Dallas need Klay more or $10M off the books next season, because Saric and Tyson are expiring. Nnaji has 1 more year then Klay.
After this proposed trade mavs have

Kyrie/Christie/Flagg/AD/Hardy
White/Martin/Marshall/PJ/Gafford

question is what Mavs need more Klay or cap space. If the answer is Klay, ok no deal, if the answer is cap space then deal makes sense.
And you are right Denver players don't have any value as players on court

EDIT: Klay doesn't have a value with his contract and production, he would be big gamble for denver too.

BelgradeNugget wrote:

ACMFFL wrote:

BelgradeNugget wrote:There is a big difference with Jackson trade. Nuggets traded him for cap space, clearing $5M off the books. Saric and Tyson are positive assets in trades, not as players, but expiring contracts. I think Dallas would be more than happy to trade Kley as one poster sugested, but then Denver would have to take 1st out, because Dallas would have only $7M on books next season instead of Klay's $17M.

Then Mavs have no reason to trade Klay, I'm not saying DEN should pay a 1st for him, but we have no use of these 3 Nuggets players. At least Klay is still a serviceable player, Zeke is basically deadweight.

Question is does Dallas need Klay more or $10M off the books next season, because Saric and Tyson are expiring. Nnaji has 1 more year then Klay.
After this proposed trade mavs have

Kyrie/Christie/Flagg/AD/Hardy
White/Martin/Marshall/PJ/Gafford

question is what Mavs need more Klay or cap space. If the answer is Klay, ok no deal, if the answer is cap space then deal makes sense.
And you are right Denver players don't have any value as players on court

EDIT: Klay doesn't have a value with his contract and production, he would be big gamble for denver too.

But even if the Mavs need cap space, they better off moving Hardy for a couple of 2nds than eating Nnaji contract. It makes little sense honestly.

ACMFFL wrote:

BelgradeNugget wrote:

ACMFFL wrote:
Then Mavs have no reason to trade Klay, I'm not saying DEN should pay a 1st for him, but we have no use of these 3 Nuggets players. At least Klay is still a serviceable player, Zeke is basically deadweight.

Question is does Dallas need Klay more or $10M off the books next season, because Saric and Tyson are expiring. Nnaji has 1 more year then Klay.
After this proposed trade mavs have

Kyrie/Christie/Flagg/AD/Hardy
White/Martin/Marshall/PJ/Gafford

question is what Mavs need more Klay or cap space. If the answer is Klay, ok no deal, if the answer is cap space then deal makes sense.
And you are right Denver players don't have any value as players on court

EDIT: Klay doesn't have a value with his contract and production, he would be big gamble for denver too.

But even if the Mavs need cap space, they better off moving Hardy for a couple of 2nds than eating Nnaji contract. It makes little sense honestly.

Ok, it makes sense. Now in this time I doubht you can move Hardy for a couple of 2nds, it will more likely be move Hardy with a couple of 2nds. Teams with cap space are not looking at players, they value expiring contract with draft capital attached for cap space. Hardy has $12M/2, I'm not sure Brooklyn will take him and give something back. And I'm not speaking about Hardy as player or his potential.

BelgradeNugget wrote:

ACMFFL wrote:

BelgradeNugget wrote:Question is does Dallas need Klay more or $10M off the books next season, because Saric and Tyson are expiring. Nnaji has 1 more year then Klay.
After this proposed trade mavs have

Kyrie/Christie/Flagg/AD/Hardy
White/Martin/Marshall/PJ/Gafford

question is what Mavs need more Klay or cap space. If the answer is Klay, ok no deal, if the answer is cap space then deal makes sense.
And you are right Denver players don't have any value as players on court

EDIT: Klay doesn't have a value with his contract and production, he would be big gamble for denver too.

But even if the Mavs need cap space, they better off moving Hardy for a couple of 2nds than eating Nnaji contract. It makes little sense honestly.

Ok, it makes sense. Now in this time I doubht you can move Hardy for a couple of 2nds, it will more likely be move Hardy with a couple of 2nds. Teams with cap space are not looking at players, they value expiring contract with draft capital attached for cap space. Hardy has $12M/2, I'm not sure Brooklyn will take him and give something back. And I'm not speaking about Hardy as player or his potential.

Yeah that's what I meant, Dallas has to pay 2 2nds to dump him.

youngthegiant wrote:The value is there for Denver but I just don't think Denver can justify trading it's last 1st rd pick for a 1 year rental in PJ Washington. I'd prefer Klay Thompson who has 2 more years on his deal.

Im glad you are not the Nuggets GM.

Washington >>>>>>> the corpse of Klay Thompson.

I think top 5 protected 2x?

Think Denver has to add to turn Nnaji/more junk into Klay. And I don’t think Klay is positive value, just less negative than what Denver can offer. Likely not a first, but something.

I would do OP for Dallas. I’d like it if someone took Powell as part of it, but maybe that’s just greedy..

But I do think Chicago should cut Brooklyn out and take Denver first.