Cavs/Blazers/Heat Its Garland

Post #1 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 4:50 pm

Cavs trade: Garland
Cavs get: Simons/Highsmith/Jovic/#11

Blazers trade: Simons/Scoot/#11
Blazers get: Garland/#20

Heat trade: Highsmith/Jokic/#20
Heat get: Scoot

Cavs downgrade from Garland to Simons but keep that 2nd option to Mitchell while also picking up affordable wing and forward depth and a lotto pick to use or to attach to more expensive salary they just brought in cheaper replacements for to get something else.

Portland doesn't wait and hope on Scoot, they swap him for a good young PG to add to a pretty good young core missing that PG.

Heat trade some minor assets to take a gamble on Scoot's talent. They need an unexpected big hit and they can take this shot and still play in free agency next summer.

Post #2 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:00 pm

I don’t think the Blazers or Cavs could justify giving up Scoot for this cheap.

tester551 · Post #3 » by **tester551** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:02 pm

Easy no for Portland.
IMO, Heat are stealing a TON of value here

mcfly1204 · Post #4 » by **mcfly1204** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:02 pm

I'd at least cut Miami out and just make it Simons and Scoot for Garland. That said, it feels like a no go either way. Any idea how much money Simons will be looking for?

Norm2953 · Post #5 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:10 pm

Simons has never played for a winner and might just sign for around $30 Million/season in an extension

Simons/Scoot for Garland would be an interesting trade

Post #6 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:12 pm

Yeah, Cavs are better off cutting the Heat out and taking Simons/Scoot and #11.

Post #7 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:13 pm

Hmm wasn't sure how much value Scoot had. I don't like the Cavs just keeping him, but they definitely shouldn't sacrifice value so if I missed badly there, I missed badly.

Post #8 » by **BBallFreak** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 5:29 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Cavs trade: Garland
Cavs get: Simons/Highsmith/Jovic

Blazers trade: Simons/Scoot/#11
Blazers get: Garland/#20

Heat trade: Highsmith/Jokic/#20
Heat get: Scoot

Cavs downgrade from Garland to Simons but keep that 2nd option to Mitchell while also picking up affordable wing and forward depth and a lotto pick to use or to attach to more expensive salary they just brought in cheaper replacements for to get something else.

Portland doesn't wait and hope on Scoot, they swap him for a good young PG to add to a pretty good young core missing that PG.

Heat trade some minor assets to take a gamble on Scoot's talent. They need an unexpected big hit and they can take this shot and still play in free agency next summer.

Yeah, I'm with the group here. Miami should be cut out of this deal.

As for Miami's part; while I agree with the sentiment that the Heat can afford to take chances on a prospect or two, it doesn't make sense to give up a prospect to get a prospect. This is a pick a direction kind of thing. If we're getting Scoot, or a player like him, I think we should be giving up veterans or signing them in free agency on the cheap.

DiegoChara · Post #9 » by **DiegoChara** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 7:17 pm

I don’t hate it for Portland. Maybe a slight overpay.

Does feel like Miami is stealing some value, as this assigns quite a bit of value to Jovic/highsmith?

Post #10 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 7:20 pm

DiegoChara wrote:I don’t hate it for Portland. Maybe a slight overpay.

Does feel like Miami is stealing some value, as this assigns quite a bit of value to Jovic/highsmith?

No, it was mostly me assigning like late lotto pick value to Scoot and Cleveland preferring to get different pieces back.

But sounds like everyone else has more value still attached to Scoot that I do not.

My failing is on the value of Scoot.

Post #11 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 7:45 pm

This is really, really bad for Cleveland. Table value for the moment.

Does a single one of the returning players start for Cleveland?

What issue does this trade address for the Cavs? What problem does this fix?

These aren't even *good* or *cheap* role players. This is trading your your all star PG for salary filler.

JRoy · Post #12 » by **JRoy** » Sun Jun 8, 2025 10:43 pm

I think it’s pretty close.

Love the idea of Scoot and Simons gone.

mcfly1204 · Post #13 » by **mcfly1204** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:21 am

jbk1234 wrote:This is really, really bad for Cleveland. Table value for the moment.

Does a single one of the returning players start for Cleveland?

What issue does this trade address for the Cavs? What problem does this fix?

These aren't even *good* or *cheap* role players. This is trading your your all star PG for salary filler.

Agreed that this feels more like a "Garland refuses to report" kind of offer.