Page 1 of 3

Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:50 pm
by hoopsfan777
New Orleans wants to win now and would rather add a proven young veteran than a rookie to start off the Dumars era. What's the best #7 and Alvarado can get?

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:55 pm
by giberish
Don't think Alvarado's making much difference in the quality of the return, and with Murray out NO could use him this year.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:19 pm
by QMemphis
New Orleans should be sellers not trading away picks.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:23 pm
by hoopsfan777
QMemphis wrote:New Orleans should be sellers not trading away picks.


We're building around Zion and Trey. Keeping Herb and probably Matkovic and Reeves.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:26 pm
by QMemphis
hoopsfan777 wrote:
QMemphis wrote:New Orleans should be sellers not trading away picks.


We're building around Zion and Trey. Keeping Herb and probably Matkovic and Reeves.



What does that mean? What has that team accomplished for them to be trading away top ten picks. Once that team moved on from Ingram it was time to rebuild.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:30 pm
by JRoy
Scoot!

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:30 pm
by hoopsfan777
QMemphis wrote:
hoopsfan777 wrote:
QMemphis wrote:New Orleans should be sellers not trading away picks.


We're building around Zion and Trey. Keeping Herb and probably Matkovic and Reeves.



What does that mean? What has that team accomplished for them to be trading away top ten picks. Once that team moved on from Ingram it was time to rebuild.


Dumars isn't rebuilding in year one. We're looking to get better right now which is where a young proven veteran comes in.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:32 pm
by babyjax13
Lauri for 7, DeJounte, filler. Agree that Jose is such a small value add that he doesn't materially change the return for 7.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:34 pm
by jayjaysee
I’d guess Alvarado is worth a couple 2nds? No reason to include him here right?

What’s the salary matching?

Mostly neutral CJM?

Negative DJM?

Sort of makes sense to hold on to DJM and hope for a major comeback if the goal is to win now..

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:37 pm
by jayjaysee
I know SAS would never do this but to go with the thread..

Fox for McCollum and 7? No idea if Fox still holds more value than a midlottery first and a fill-in vet.

If you think he does, we can add a protected future first, protection lasting a few years? Can include Hawkins or Kelly, if they hold any value to SAS..

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:41 pm
by Astaluego
So hang up that Murray or McCollum pick... Alvarado's salary is too low, or who were you thinking?
7+ PACERS 26+ Alvarado to HOUSTON for Sheppard + 10?

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:47 pm
by Darren
PJ Washington if the Mavs discover that Flagg can only play 4/3 and play defense better than PJ. The Mavs want backcourt help. Expand the deal to include Christie / Martin / Marshall / Klay, filler and pick. This is a move that the Mavs has been longing for.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:50 pm
by hoopsfan777
babyjax13 wrote:Lauri for 7, DeJounte, filler. Agree that Jose is such a small value add that he doesn't materially change the return for 7.


Deal.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:51 pm
by hoopsfan777
jayjaysee wrote:I know SAS would never do this but to go with the thread..

Fox for McCollum and 7? No idea if Fox still holds more value than a midlottery first and a fill-in vet.

If you think he does, we can add a protected future first, protection lasting a few years? Can include Hawkins or Kelly, if they hold any value to SAS..


I like it.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:57 pm
by hoopsfan777
Astaluego wrote:So hang up that Murray or McCollum pick... Alvarado's salary is too low, or who were you thinking?
7+ PACERS 26+ Alvarado to HOUSTON for Sheppard + 10?


Prefer Sengun or Jabari.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:19 am
by Wizop
Pacers give Mathurin and pick 23 for pick 7 and the return of the Pacers own 2026 FRP. Alvarado not needed.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:21 am
by hoopsfan777
Wizop wrote:Pacers give Mathurin and pick 23 for pick 7 and the return of the Pacers own 2026 FRP. Alvarado not needed.


Pass.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:25 am
by Wizop
hoopsfan777 wrote:
Wizop wrote:Pacers give Mathurin and pick 23 for pick 7 and the return of the Pacers own 2026 FRP. Alvarado not needed.


Pass.


What would it take for you to return the Pacers 2026 first?

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:25 am
by Tim Lehrbach
JRoy wrote:Scoot!


Portland wouldn't because guard is their biggest need and they probably still like Scoot over any non-Harper guard in the draft... but this is a good idea. Reset the rookie contract clock, take a shot at somebody whose ceiling is still unknown (and thus higher than Henderson's).

I don't think New Orleans would do it either, regardless of the quality available in this draft, because they could get an offer with a better NBA player.

Re: Best player for #7 and Alvarado

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:32 am
by hoopsfan777
Wizop wrote:
hoopsfan777 wrote:
Wizop wrote:Pacers give Mathurin and pick 23 for pick 7 and the return of the Pacers own 2026 FRP. Alvarado not needed.


Pass.


What would it take for you to return the Pacers 2026 first?


New Orleans outgoing

Olynyk
Alvarado
IND '26 1st

Indiana outgoing

McConnell
#23