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Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:21 am
by Godaddycurse
Sacramento trade: Sabonis, Derozan, 2026 top 4 then unprotected 1st
Dallas trade: AD, Gafford

Why for Dallas: Add playmaking in spades. Sabonis is much more durable and fits better with Flagg imo
Why for Sacramento: Consolidate for a star PF

Sabonis
PJ
Flagg
Derozan
Irving

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:28 am
by Tim Lehrbach
AD fits better with Flagg because he is a lot better than Sabonis. At the same time, a lightly protected Sacramento pick is also a big prize. This depends on Dallas' timeline.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:45 am
by Texas Chuck
If Dallas trades AD the bulk of the return shouldn't be veteran players like this. Especially not ones who are worth far more on the court than they are in trade. It would be difficult to spin off either of those guys for value and hard to compete with them. No interest in this for one future 1st. Dallas could take back worse players and get more value and that makes more sense.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:50 am
by Godaddycurse
Texas Chuck wrote:If Dallas trades AD the bulk of the return shouldn't be veteran players like this. Especially not ones who are worth far more on the court than they are in trade. It would be difficult to spin off either of those guys for value and hard to compete with them. No interest in this for one future 1st. Dallas could take back worse players and get more value and that makes more sense.


For better or (more likely) worse i think Nico wants to do a 2 timeline approach. I think Dallas has enough defensive forwards to make Sabonis work better than in Sacramento. Irving if healthy is also an upgrade to fox. I quite like this team

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:53 am
by Texas Chuck
Godaddycurse wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:If Dallas trades AD the bulk of the return shouldn't be veteran players like this. Especially not ones who are worth far more on the court than they are in trade. It would be difficult to spin off either of those guys for value and hard to compete with them. No interest in this for one future 1st. Dallas could take back worse players and get more value and that makes more sense.


For better or (more likely) worse i think Nico wants to do a 2 timeline approach. I think Dallas has enough defensive forwards to make Sabonis work better than in Sacramento. Irving if healthy is also an upgrade to fox. I quite like this team


But his two timeline approach is built on AD being better at basketball than Luka Doncic. And after all his speech about defense he can't trade AD for two offensive players far worse than Luka. It's just not realistic.

The only way AD can even be traded imo is if Niko is gone. At which point I would assume they pivot to Flagg as the building block, not AD/Kyrie.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:10 am
by One_and_Done
Not enough for AD, and also doesn't make sense from a fit/structural/timeline perspective.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:21 am
by SNPA
Kings should have no interest in turning Sabonis into street clothes.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:52 am
by djFan71
Seems ok-ish until you replace Dallas players with Luka and see if you’d still do it.
Even if you were Nico.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:24 am
by Mavrelous
AD isn't a #1 option, but he's better at it than Sabonis...

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:00 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mavrelous wrote:AD isn't a #1 option, but he's better at it than Sabonis...


I'm not sold AD is a better offensive player than Sabonis. He's a much better overall player, but if I was having to build an offense around one of them, I'm probably choosing Sabonis.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:02 pm
by Mavrelous
Texas Chuck wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:AD isn't a #1 option, but he's better at it than Sabonis...


I'm not sold AD is a better offensive player than Sabonis. He's a much better overall player, but if I was having to build an offense around one of them, I'm probably choosing Sabonis.

He isn't, but you can build a better team with him as the MVP of the team than with Sabonis, which is the interesting comparison to make rather who is the better offensive player.

Re: Sacramento - Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:04 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mavrelous wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:AD isn't a #1 option, but he's better at it than Sabonis...


I'm not sold AD is a better offensive player than Sabonis. He's a much better overall player, but if I was having to build an offense around one of them, I'm probably choosing Sabonis.

He isn't, but you can build a better team with him as the MVP of the team than with Sabonis, which is the interesting comparison to make rather who is the better offensive player.


Sorry when you said #1 option I took that to mean offensively as thats the common vernacular. Obviously AD is a better player. Just misunderstood what you were saying.