Dejounte Murray, MIL '26 1st, MIL '27 1st

[hoopsfan777]

Two trades

New Orleans outgoing

Murray
'26 MIL 1st
'27 MIL 1st

Minnesota outgoing

Randle


New Orleans gets a player to start at the 4 (Zion at the 2), while Murphy III and Herb are out and can back-up Zion at the 4 when everyone is healthy.

Minnesota gets assets that could potentially be lottery picks if Milwaukee trades Giannis.


Or

New Orleans outgoing

Murray
'26 MIL 1st
'27 MIL 1st

Utah outgoing

John Collins


New Orleans adds a stop gap 5 that we get a look at for a year and could later re-sign if he works out.

Utah gets assets that could potentially be lottery picks if Milwaukee trades Giannis.

[hugepatsfan]

Zion at the 2???

[hoopsfan777]

Zion at the 2???

Herb and Murphy III won't start the season. Zion played the 2 late last season.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Randle and Zion have a lot of overlapping skill sets, notably both utilized their physicality and handles to attack within the 3P line.

This trade isn't legal either. New Orleans can't trade both 2026 and 2027 1sts.

[Mavrelous]

Pelicans don't have MIL 26 or 27 1st, they the right to swap their pick with them, none of the players mentioned is worth such a high variance asset.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Pelicans don't have MIL 26 or 27 1st, they the right to swap their pick with them, none of the players mentioned is worth such a high variance asset.

You are still confused about the 2027 1st!

The Pelicans own the following two firsts in 2027:

New Orleans 2027 1st
Milwaukee 2027 1st

Atlanta gets the lesser of the two, while New Orleans receives the greater of the two. Both picks are protected 1-4.

[Mavrelous]

Pelicans don't have MIL 26 or 27 1st, they the right to swap their pick with them, none of the players mentioned is worth such a high variance asset.

You are still confused about the 2027 1st!

The Pelicans own the following two firsts in 2027:

New Orleans 2027 1st
Milwaukee 2027 1st

Atlanta gets the lesser of the two, while New Orleans receives the greater of the two. Both picks are protected 1-4.

I'm not confused, this is the definition of a swap, you get the best pick of them, with a small wrinkle on the 27 in the very improbable case both NOP and MIL are top 4.

[Mamba4Goat]

Is NO willing to dump Murray without it being a clear cut upgrade after paying pretty decently for him one year ago? If so, as mentioned Randle and Zion feel like they have too much overlap to work too great. Similarly, Collins has had his 3pt shot come around, but he’s also not the cleanest fit.

[hoopsfan777]

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[ReggiesKnicks]

Pelicans don't have MIL 26 or 27 1st, they the right to swap their pick with them, none of the players mentioned is worth such a high variance asset.

You are still confused about the 2027 1st!

The Pelicans own the following two firsts in 2027:

New Orleans 2027 1st
Milwaukee 2027 1st

Atlanta gets the lesser of the two, while New Orleans receives the greater of the two. Both picks are protected 1-4.

I'm not confused, this is the definition of a swap, you get the best pick of them, with a small wrinkle on the 27 in the very improbable case both NOP and MIL are top 4.

It isn't a swap because Milwaukee doesn't get anything.

New Orleans gets 2 picks (or had) and then is trading the lesser away.

It's a pseudo-swap that I agree with. It is different than their 2026 1st with Milwaukee, which is a real swap.

[Mavrelous]

You are still confused about the 2027 1st!

The Pelicans own the following two firsts in 2027:

New Orleans 2027 1st
Milwaukee 2027 1st

Atlanta gets the lesser of the two, while New Orleans receives the greater of the two. Both picks are protected 1-4.

I'm not confused, this is the definition of a swap, you get the best pick of them, with a small wrinkle on the 27 in the very improbable case both NOP and MIL are top 4.

It isn't a swap because Milwaukee doesn't get anything.

New Orleans gets 2 picks (or had) and then is trading the lesser away.

It's a pseudo-swap that I agree with. It is different than their 2026 1st with Milwaukee, which is a real swap.

I have no idea why you insist on arguing petty things...
PHX traded their swapped pick to CHO last year, do the 3 teams that hold a swap with PHX change the name of the right they have on their pick because PHX no longer hold the other pick?
NOP has a right to swap its pick with the Bucks pick, what happens with the pick later is irrelevant to NOP, from NOP POV this is a swap for all intents and purposes.

[Mrakar]

Lol why would Pelicans trade 2 very valuable picks for 2 guys that play at zions position and are/will be overpaid...pelicans slam the phone down and dont even answer after those offers...

[ReggiesKnicks]

Lol why would Pelicans trade 2 very valuable picks for 2 guys that play at zions position and are/will be overpaid...pelicans slam the phone down and dont even answer after those offers...

Why would either Collins or Randle be overpaid?

Randle is definitely not overpaid, nor would he be on an extension.

[hoopsfan777]

Is NO willing to dump Murray without it being a clear cut upgrade after paying pretty decently for him one year ago? If so, as mentioned Randle and Zion feel like they have too much overlap to work too great. Similarly, Collins has had his 3pt shot come around, but he’s also not the cleanest fit.

Trading for Randle and Collins' expiring contracts is more about dumping Murray than a fit with Zion.

[hoopsfan777]

Lol why would Pelicans trade 2 very valuable picks for 2 guys that play at zions position and are/will be overpaid...pelicans slam the phone down and dont even answer after those offers...

New Orleans bet on Giannis staying in Milwaukee. Randle and Collins could walk after a year and gives us cap space. It's about clearing cap space.

[Euphonetiks]

I'm not confused, this is the definition of a swap, you get the best pick of them, with a small wrinkle on the 27 in the very improbable case both NOP and MIL are top 4.

It isn't a swap because Milwaukee doesn't get anything.

New Orleans gets 2 picks (or had) and then is trading the lesser away.

It's a pseudo-swap that I agree with. It is different than their 2026 1st with Milwaukee, which is a real swap.

I have no idea why you insist on arguing petty things...
PHX traded their swapped pick to CHO last year, do the 3 teams that hold a swap with PHX change the name of the right they have on their pick because PHX no longer hold the other pick?
NOP has a right to swap its pick with the Bucks pick, what happens with the pick later is irrelevant to NOP, from NOP POV this is a swap for all intents and purposes.

It is not a swap. It is the better of two 1sts. The bucks do not have a pick. They traded it to New Orleans. If New Orleans trades the '27 pick, they will have no pick in '27. If New Orleans wins the lottery in '27, the 1st overall pick would go to Minnesota or Utah in these trades. It is the same as trading both an unprotected pick AND a swap combined, not just a swap. On the other end, if New Orleans relinquishes the '26 swap, they maintain their first because that one is just a swap.

[Mavrelous]

It isn't a swap because Milwaukee doesn't get anything.

New Orleans gets 2 picks (or had) and then is trading the lesser away.

It's a pseudo-swap that I agree with. It is different than their 2026 1st with Milwaukee, which is a real swap.

I have no idea why you insist on arguing petty things...
PHX traded their swapped pick to CHO last year, do the 3 teams that hold a swap with PHX change the name of the right they have on their pick because PHX no longer hold the other pick?
NOP has a right to swap its pick with the Bucks pick, what happens with the pick later is irrelevant to NOP, from NOP POV this is a swap for all intents and purposes.

It is not a swap. It is the better of two 1sts. If New Orleans trades the '27 pick, they will have no pick. If New Orleans wins the lottery in '27, the 1st overall pick would go to Minnesota or Utah in these trades. It is the same as trading both and unprotected pick AND a swap, not just a swap. On the other end, if New Orleans relinquishes the '26 swap, they maintain their first because that one is just a swap.

That's what a swap, you get the best pick between 2 picks, you can relinquish the swap of 27 also, only you do it with ATL instead of MIL.

[SkyHook]

Pelicans don't have MIL 26 or 27 1st, they the right to swap their pick with them, none of the players mentioned is worth such a high variance asset.

Shhhh! (Agreed.)

[Euphonetiks]

I have no idea why you insist on arguing petty things...
PHX traded their swapped pick to CHO last year, do the 3 teams that hold a swap with PHX change the name of the right they have on their pick because PHX no longer hold the other pick?
NOP has a right to swap its pick with the Bucks pick, what happens with the pick later is irrelevant to NOP, from NOP POV this is a swap for all intents and purposes.

It is not a swap. It is the better of two 1sts. If New Orleans trades the '27 pick, they will have no pick. If New Orleans wins the lottery in '27, the 1st overall pick would go to Minnesota or Utah in these trades. It is the same as trading both and unprotected pick AND a swap, not just a swap. On the other end, if New Orleans relinquishes the '26 swap, they maintain their first because that one is just a swap.

That's what a swap, you get the best pick between 2 picks, you can relinquish the swap of 27 also, only you do it with ATL instead of MIL.

It is not a swap. It is a pick. The Pelicans cannot relinquish the better of NOP/MIL '27 pick without a new agreement with Atlanta because it is not an option to swap, it is an actual pick. That is unlike the '26 swap which the Pelicans could rescind without Milwuakee's permission because that is the Pels unilateral OPTION to swap the pick.

[Mavrelous]

It is not a swap. It is the better of two 1sts. If New Orleans trades the '27 pick, they will have no pick. If New Orleans wins the lottery in '27, the 1st overall pick would go to Minnesota or Utah in these trades. It is the same as trading both and unprotected pick AND a swap, not just a swap. On the other end, if New Orleans relinquishes the '26 swap, they maintain their first because that one is just a swap.

That's what a swap, you get the best pick between 2 picks, you can relinquish the swap of 27 also, only you do it with ATL instead of MIL.

It is not a swap. It is a pick. The Pelicans cannot relinquish the better of NOP/MIL '27 pick without a new agreement with Atlanta because it is not an option to swap, it is an actual pick. That is unlike the '26 swap which the Pelicans could rescind without Milwuakee's permission because that is the Pels unilateral OPTION to swap the pick.

Sure they can
ATL: Hi NOP, we want you to reliquish the 27 swap, we'll pay you X
NOP: Fine by me, I take X, now you have MIL 27 1st allmfor yoirself and we have NOP 27 1st.

Same conversation can happen for 26 swap, but with MIL instead.