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BOS gives: Jrue
BOS gets: Niang, Terence Davis

Why? Save money. This deal preeeeeeeeeety much gets them below the 2nd apron. They'd have Niang and Hauser easily movable for more savings too and Porzingis' deal might not be easy to dump but should be easy to move for marginal savings. This removes the stress of any future deals they make and allows them to deal without as much pressure in follow ups.

SAC gives: DDR, Terence Davis

Why? Right now they have 4 SGs (Lavine, DDR, Monk, Ellis) and no PGs (besides a project in Devin Carter) and no real forwards other than Murray. This starts the roster realigning with turning one of those SGs into a still very good PG. Lavine and Sabonis handle a lot so Jrue's on ball/off ball ability is a good fit, with the defense of course.

ATL gives: Niang
ATL gets: DDR (Murray TPE)

Why? This is the tough one. This board hates DDR's game, but he JUST signed that deal last year and there was competition for it. He's a legit shot creation/ scoring threat, and ATL lacks those outside of Young. I feel like unless you're just morally opposed to DDR's type of game, which to be fair many people are, it's not really a bad contract. So it's kind of a question of if ATL is ok with that style and I feel like they might be. ATL is in healthy tax position for both years of his deal too.

Boston owes value to Atlanta. Derozan is a rough fit next to trae.

My guess is that Quinn is not a DeRozan guy. But Atlanta seems like an org w/ a lot of cooks in the kitchen between ownership, front office & coaches, and I don't follow the Hawks close enough to know if Quinn would have final say. But I just don't think Snyder would want DDR

For Boston, this deal obviously resolves the financial burden of the yrs on Jrue's deal. And I actually kind of like Niang. He's a local Mass dude too -- though he did reach from the bench to trip JB in game action during the Philly series in 2023 and not sure if JB and him have a good relationship after that

SAC just generally seems they'd be delighted to turn Derozan into Jrue without including draft capital or Keon Ellis/Carter

Then there are these recent insider reports, may be posturing, claiming BOS can get more value than just cap sheet relief for Jrue. Who knows if that's true?

For me, as a interested fan, I'd be more interested in moving other pieces for positive value, take a step back, and keep Jrue Holiday. I'd put Jrue on the Al Horford in OKC plan, break him out in December or January, ramp him up to move him at the trade deadline. I look at White & Hauser and secondarily KP & JB as guys I'd want to sell high on this summer. To me, this is the summer, to get younger, bring in assets and be fine with 30-something wins...

But all the reporting is that Brad doesn't see it that way. And in that case, just getting off Jrue's long term money without having to pay anything like you have here, is fine enough. Not very bold, but you're not spending anything... glad we won it in 2024 otherwise the spend for Jrue for this round trip return would be depressing ... but we did win it, so who can complain (lol)

hugepatsfan wrote:BOS gives: Jrue
BOS gets: Niang, Terence Davis

Why? Save money. This deal preeeeeeeeeety much gets them below the 2nd apron. They'd have Niang and Hauser easily movable for more savings too and Porzingis' deal might not be easy to dump but should be easy to move for marginal savings. This removes the stress of any future deals they make and allows them to deal without as much pressure in follow ups.

SAC gives: DDR, Terence Davis

Why? Right now they have 4 SGs (Lavine, DDR, Monk, Ellis) and no PGs (besides a project in Devin Carter) and no real forwards other than Murray. This starts the roster realigning with turning one of those SGs into a still very good PG. Lavine and Sabonis handle a lot so Jrue's on ball/off ball ability is a good fit, with the defense of course.

ATL gives: Niang
ATL gets: DDR (Murray TPE)

Why? This is the tough one. This board hates DDR's game, but he JUST signed that deal last year and there was competition for it. He's a legit shot creation/ scoring threat, and ATL lacks those outside of Young. I feel like unless you're just morally opposed to DDR's type of game, which to be fair many people are, it's not really a bad contract. So it's kind of a question of if ATL is ok with that style and I feel like they might be. ATL is in healthy tax position for both years of his deal too.

I don't like the idea of taking on Holiday's contract. He isn't worth his contract, and he is getting old, his play has declined and he won't really move the needle for the kings. This is a no from me.

longfellow44 wrote:I don't like the idea of taking on Holiday's contract. He isn't worth his contract, and he is getting old, his play has declined and he won't really move the needle for the kings. This is a no from me.

Any decline in his play is debatable. His role changed dramatically in BOS vs MIL, and then he had a career year shooting from 3 last year followed by a down year this year. Could be decline, could be role change and random year to year shooting variance.

williambh3 wrote:

longfellow44 wrote:I don't like the idea of taking on Holiday's contract. He isn't worth his contract, and he is getting old, his play has declined and he won't really move the needle for the kings. This is a no from me.

Any decline in his play is debatable. His role changed dramatically in BOS vs MIL, and then he had a career year shooting from 3 last year followed by a down year this year. Could be decline, could be role change and random year to year shooting variance.

It is still a ridiculously bad contract, even if you think that he hasn't started to decline as a player

Hawks have NO use for DeMar DeRozan and the $60m owed to him.

I mean if the Hawks are talking about bringing back LaVert there is logic to Derozan instead

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Texas Chuck wrote:I mean if the Hawks are talking about bringing back LaVert there is logic to Derozan instead

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Levert is better off ball and more willing to come off the bench

Godaddycurse wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:I mean if the Hawks are talking about bringing back LaVert there is logic to Derozan instead

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Levert is better off ball and more willing to come off the bench

And will most likely cost less.

Derozen is not good, Atlanta deserves more if they're taking him on