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assuming RJ/Poeltl/9 = KD, Toronto is not paying Dick + 3 unprotected 1sts to turn IQ into Garland.

I think the deal overvalues Durant and largely ignores what the Sixers plans are.

Godaddycurse wrote:assuming RJ/Poeltl/9 = KD, Toronto is not paying Dick + 3 unprotected 1sts to turn IQ into Garland.

Agreed. This is truly a crazy overpay. IQ and Garland arguably have similar value. KD at his age and with his injury concerns just doesn't hold the value folks are giving him. RJ/9 may be as much as I would consider. Even then I am not completely sold on going after KD in the first place.

Is this really the trade that the Raptors should be doing? Kevin Durant and Darius Garland isn't enough to make them a contending level team. Not to mention, they would have a major hole at this center position. This is also a overpay for both KD and Garland. Those Cavaliers swaps that the Raptors get hold no value, so may as well say that Garland is getting moved for the 3rd pick. Also, nobody is giving up 3 1st round pick and a quality young prospect for a old Kevin Durant.

Also the 76ers are not interested in moving down 6 spots to gain 3 fine, but not great role players just to get rid of PG contract. This is simply not a trade that's worth doing.

Too much for Toronto top try to gamble if Toronto gets Durant for anything resembling a RJ or Quickley plus #9 why go after Garland moving that many unprotected firsts plus Gradey and Poeltl

Best Toronto would put forward for Durant is RJ and Poeltl. The Suns need a young forward and a C. They'd have to keep 9th and hope Queen/Maluach would be enough at the 5 for them next season. Ideally they'd make a follow up trade to get that C using that 9th pick.

So the Sixers are building the foundation for an Embiid trade by moving from 3 to 9 and they're the one sending the extra pick out on top of it. I feel like that should be a sign there's a major problem with the logic involved.

Thaddy wrote:Best Toronto would put forward for Durant is RJ and Poeltl. The Suns need a young forward and a C. They'd have to keep 9th and hope Queen/Maluach would be enough at the 5 for them next season. Ideally they'd make a follow up trade to get that C using that 9th pick.

There really isn't much a reason to go after Durant if it is going to cost Toronto their starting center. To hope a Queen/Maluach can come in and help a KD led team be relevant is just nonsense.

Cut the Cavs out of this. Zero interest in IQ on his deal. I can't believe you have them adding unprotected 1sts/swaps.

Philly has no interest in this deal.

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:assuming RJ/Poeltl/9 = KD, Toronto is not paying Dick + 3 unprotected 1sts to turn IQ into Garland.

Agreed. This is truly a crazy overpay. IQ and Garland arguably have similar value. KD at his age and with his injury concerns just doesn't hold the value folks are giving him. RJ/9 may be as much as I would consider. Even then I am not completely sold on going after KD in the first place.

Quickly and Garland do not have the same value.

bgrep14 wrote:

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:assuming RJ/Poeltl/9 = KD, Toronto is not paying Dick + 3 unprotected 1sts to turn IQ into Garland.

Agreed. This is truly a crazy overpay. IQ and Garland arguably have similar value. KD at his age and with his injury concerns just doesn't hold the value folks are giving him. RJ/9 may be as much as I would consider. Even then I am not completely sold on going after KD in the first place.

Quickly and Garland do not have the same value.

I did not say same value. I said similar. Garland's stats are a bit better but not by much.

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

bgrep14 wrote:

Yenrallik1111 wrote:
Agreed. This is truly a crazy overpay. IQ and Garland arguably have similar value. KD at his age and with his injury concerns just doesn't hold the value folks are giving him. RJ/9 may be as much as I would consider. Even then I am not completely sold on going after KD in the first place.

Quickly and Garland do not have the same value.

I did not say same value. I said similar. Garland's stats are a bit better but not by much.

Garland is miles better than IQ. Garland is two time all star at 25. IQ does not have positive trade value right now. He was paid like a good starter and he hasn't been.

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

bgrep14 wrote:

Yenrallik1111 wrote:
Agreed. This is truly a crazy overpay. IQ and Garland arguably have similar value. KD at his age and with his injury concerns just doesn't hold the value folks are giving him. RJ/9 may be as much as I would consider. Even then I am not completely sold on going after KD in the first place.

Quickly and Garland do not have the same value.

I did not say same value. I said similar. Garland's stats are a bit better but not by much.

yeah, but similar is way off as well. “Garland has much more value the Quickley” is the correct phrase

jbk1234 wrote:

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

bgrep14 wrote:
Quickly and Garland do not have the same value.

I did not say same value. I said similar. Garland's stats are a bit better but not by much.

Garland is miles better than IQ. Garland is two time all star at 25. IQ does not have positive trade value right now. He was paid like a good starter and he hasn't been.

I personally do not put a lot of stock in the all star argument. It's a glorified popularity contest. IQ had some bad luck injury wise. I saw enough to suggest they are not far off from each other. Miles better is simply not rational when looking at stats and watching the way each play. We will just have to agree to disagree on this.