UTA-ORL-MEM :: add to Bane trade

[zimpy27]

Magic get Bane
Magic give KCP, Cole, #16, 3 future FRP, 1 future swap

Memphis get Lauri, #16, 1 future FRP, 1 future swap
Memphis give Bane, Clarke

Jazz get Cole, KCP, Clarke, 2 future FRP
Jazz give Lauri


Magic already did their part.

Memphis get more rebounding and can go huge with Lauri/JJJ/Edey or simply use Lauri/JJJ and Edey off bench. They still add draft assets.

Jazz move on from Lauri for 2 of the Magic FRPs.

[babyjax13]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

[WinterSoldier]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

Ya It looks like the RealGM valuations are off, not that it's a huge surprise.

[jayjaysee]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

If one of the firsts is the 2026 first, it’s probably decent.

[babyjax13]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

If one of the firsts is the 2026 first, it’s probably decent.

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

[jayjaysee]

Think the add on could be just Cole and 16 for 21..

But for fun, Cole and 16 for a fake second. Then Sexton for Clarke.. called in a couple hours apart and JJJ renegotiated in between?

As for OP.. I don’t think this is the right pivot for Memphis. (Maybe just because I’m a Dallas fan dreaming of AD for KCP+picks)

[zimpy27]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

I think gap between Bane and Lauri is 2 FRPs.

Bane has been consistently impactful for several seasons. Efficiency stays the same even without Ja, even when usage increases.
Lauri has been inconsistent and injured and is coming off a rough season.
Bane also costs about $10m less per season than Lauri.

[psman2]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

If one of the firsts is the 2026 first, it’s probably decent.

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

? The swaps are what make it potentially good

Regarding op....Think Memphis sticks with Edey at center and don't value Lauri as a SF..

[jayjaysee]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

If one of the firsts is the 2026 first, it’s probably decent.

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

The 2026 Orlando first is just the Phoenix first most likely.. no real clutter on it?

If Phoenix wins the lottery, then Memphis gets Washington’s pick - and they’ll be trying to be a bottom 4 team again..

[Daddy 801]

Also worth noting Orlando supposedly valued Bane being on a longer contract which Lauri also has a long contract. People on here often refer to Lauri’s contract as a negative but for some teams like Orlando that might be a good thing. I’m not arguing one way or another, just worth noting it might not be the negative issue some portray.

Edit - just noticed this was Memphis getting Lauri, not Orlando. Kind of makes my post irrelevant but whatever. Maybe Memphis also values a longer contract. Lauri and JJJ next to each other would be a good combination.

[zimpy27]

Also worth noting Orlando supposedly valued Bane being on a longer contract which Lauri also has a long contract. People on here often refer to Lauri’s contract as a negative but for some teams like Orlando that might be a good thing. I’m not arguing one way or another, just worth noting it might not be the negative issue some portray.

We clearly aren't saying Lauri is negative value here though, he's getting 2 FRPs on top of useful players.

[psman2]

Think the add on could be just Cole and 16 for 21..

But for fun, Cole and 16 for a fake second. Then Sexton for Clarke.. called in a couple hours apart and JJJ renegotiated in between?

Wrong thread? But yep that was an idea I considered. Wouldn't pay 16 for sexton/cole swap. But getting JJJ money makes sense but dumping Clarke as part of it.

[babyjax13]

I'm not moving Lauri for two picks from the Magic. I don't see much of a value gap between Lauri and Bane.

I think gap between Bane and Lauri is 2 FRPs.

Bane has been consistently impactful for several seasons. Efficiency stays the same even without Ja, even when usage increases.
Lauri has been inconsistent and injured and is coming off a rough season.
Bane also costs about $10m less per season than Lauri.

I'm all in favor of trading Lauri, but not for this. I also don't see a value gap of 2 1sts at all even with what happened last season. There is no high-variance asset, no good prospect, all the players coming back are neutral at best contracts, Clarke is a terrible fit, Cole is a terrible fit, and KCP needs to be flipped somewhere else.

[jayjaysee]

Think the add on could be just Cole and 16 for 21..

But for fun, Cole and 16 for a fake second. Then Sexton for Clarke.. called in a couple hours apart and JJJ renegotiated in between?

Wrong thread? But yep that was an idea I considered. Wouldn't pay 16 for sexton/cole swap. But getting JJJ money makes sense but dumping Clarke as part of it.

Na, not wrong thread. Just a derailing a bit unfortunately.. OP said this was an add on to the Bane deal..

[babyjax13]

Think the add on could be just Cole and 16 for 21..

But for fun, Cole and 16 for a fake second. Then Sexton for Clarke.. called in a couple hours apart and JJJ renegotiated in between?

Wrong thread? But yep that was an idea I considered. Wouldn't pay 16 for sexton/cole swap. But getting JJJ money makes sense but dumping Clarke as part of it.

I like that broad swap, too (Clarke/Anthony 16 for Sexton). Utah gets a pretty good pick for taking on the future money and swapping for a worse player, Memphis gets a 6th man and some savings.

[zimpy27]

If one of the firsts is the 2026 first, it’s probably decent.

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

? The swaps are what make it potentially good

Regarding op....Think Memphis sticks with Edey at center and don't value Lauri as a SF..

I don't think Memphis want to rush Edey injury. But also, Lauri can play SF, even with his poorer play last season his value is size at the SF or PF spot.

[babyjax13]

If one of the firsts is the 2026 first, it’s probably decent.

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

The 2026 Orlando first is just the Phoenix first most likely.. no real clutter on it?

If Phoenix wins the lottery, then Memphis gets Washington’s pick - and they’ll be trying to be a bottom 4 team again..

Realgm updated the picks owed it looks like, I looked at the 2026 pick owed to Orlando which is the worst of all those picks. Yah, if it is the Phoenix first I think this trade is fine. I disagree on the difference between Bane/Lauri in value, but if Orlando overpays for Bane that is their issue.

[Godaddycurse]

OP is fair if its 2026 1st but ainge wont admit lauri is 2 1sts and a swap less than Bane.

[babyjax13]

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

? The swaps are what make it potentially good

Regarding op....Think Memphis sticks with Edey at center and don't value Lauri as a SF..

I don't think Memphis want to rush Edey injury. But also, Lauri can play SF, even with his poorer play last season his value is size at the SF or PF spot.

Yah, Lauri's best year was starting at SF. I think he is better at PF but he is still great at SF.

[psman2]

Not really with all the swaps, etc. involved.

? The swaps are what make it potentially good

Regarding op....Think Memphis sticks with Edey at center and don't value Lauri as a SF..

I don't think Memphis want to rush Edey injury. But also, Lauri can play SF, even with his poorer play last season his value is size at the SF or PF spot.

Just not a believer as Lauri as a full time SF. He needs to be a pf to justify his contract. plus need more playmaking out our 3rd max.