Jarlotte

[HornetJail]

Charlotte trades:
Josh Green
Grant Williams
Tidjane Salaun
2025 CHA 1st (#4)
2026 1st: best of 1) CHA 1st or 2) worst of MEM/WAS/ORL/PHX 1st --- essentially the Charlotte pick unless they are better than all the other teams
2027 CHA/DAL/MIA 1st (middle pick, or lowest if Miami is top 14)

Memphis trades:
Ja Morant

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Memphis blows it all up, and gets one, potentially two very high quality picks out of Ja, and another potentially good one in 2027 (with all teams in limbo atm). The players are worth nothing realistically, but this is quality over quantity in terms of picks. They can build with one of VJ/Bailey as a cornerstone, and could potentially own three very high picks in 2026 if Charlotte still can't get their heads out of their you know whats.

Charlotte gambles on the huge upside of a Ja/Melo/Miller backcourt, allowing LaMelo to play the offensive role he's better suited for, hybrid on and off the ball next to another playmaker. Playing him as a heliocentric PG is not it. Also, the entire offense might not go down the toilet the second Melo hits the bench like it does now. Risky? Absolutely, due to both injuries and off court issues. But it's a risk that can pay off in a massive way if it works.

[jbk1234]

I thought this was going to be JJJ. The Hornets should not do this.

[mcfly1204]

I thought this was going to be JJJ. The Hornets should not do this.

I was expecting another Jarrett Allen cost cutting deal... after seeing what it actually is, I don't think this is nearly enough for Memphis to move Ja, but I also don't think Ja is a guy worth giving up a ton for.

[jbk1234]

I thought this was going to be JJJ. The Hornets should not do this.

I was expecting another Jarrett Allen cost cutting deal... after seeing what it actually is, I don't think this is nearly enough for Memphis to move Ja, but I also don't think Ja is a guy worth giving up a ton for.

I think it's enough, I just think spending all that draft capital and cap space for a Ja and LaMelo back court is an awful idea.

[wemby]

Ja + Miles Bridges + Lamelo + Brandon Miller... not the group I'd like to build my franchise around. More than Jarlotte, it'd be Jailotte.

[BigGargamel]

Nvm

[Astaluego]

Wrong goal for the HORNETS, I don't think either Ja or Ball want/should play off the ball (Miller needs it to some extent too) but fit aside, that duo combined has missed a whopping 200 games over the last 2 seasons...imagine how that pair would function together in the locker room and the culture/chemistry they would create for the Hornets (now add Miles into the equation)

[esvl]

Ja >> Bane

Now you can calculate Ja’s trade value and compare it with OP, which is laughable

[wemby]

Ja >> Bane

Now you can calculate Ja’s trade value and compare it with OP, which is laughable

Maybe in a vacuum, but I don't think the league sees him that way, Bane's price tag had a lot to do with context, high level shooters who can play off ball, defend and be professional and available probably have higher demand than very talented but unreliable players whose effectiveness suffers in the playoffs. For the record, I think Ja can get a nice return but right now it would not be higher than Bane.

[esvl]

Ja >> Bane

Now you can calculate Ja’s trade value and compare it with OP, which is laughable

Maybe in a vacuum, but I don't think the league sees him that way, Bane's price tag had a lot to do with context, high level shooters who can play off ball, defend and be professional and available probably have higher demand than very talented but unreliable players whose effectiveness suffers in the playoffs. For the record, I think Ja can get a nice return but right now it would not be higher than Bane.

Then Ja will remain Grizzly. Very simple.

[wemby]

Ja >> Bane

Now you can calculate Ja’s trade value and compare it with OP, which is laughable

Maybe in a vacuum, but I don't think the league sees him that way, Bane's price tag had a lot to do with context, high level shooters who can play off ball, defend and be professional and available probably have higher demand than very talented but unreliable players whose effectiveness suffers in the playoffs. For the record, I think Ja can get a nice return but right now it would not be higher than Bane.

Then Ja will remain Grizzly. Very simple.

Sure, I expect the same. Hopefully it's on the basketball court rather than justice court or the injury list.

[esvl]

Maybe in a vacuum, but I don't think the league sees him that way, Bane's price tag had a lot to do with context, high level shooters who can play off ball, defend and be professional and available probably have higher demand than very talented but unreliable players whose effectiveness suffers in the playoffs. For the record, I think Ja can get a nice return but right now it would not be higher than Bane.

Then Ja will remain Grizzly. Very simple.

Sure, I expect the same. Hopefully it's on the basketball court rather than justice court or the injury list.

It applies universally to every player

[wemby]

Then Ja will remain Grizzly. Very simple.

Sure, I expect the same. Hopefully it's on the basketball court rather than justice court or the injury list.

It applies universally to every player

There's a very select club of people repeatedly being involved in disturbing criminal allegations and being santioned by the NBA, or missing as many games as Ja does. So no, that doesn't really universally to every player in the way it does to Ja.

[esvl]

Sure, I expect the same. Hopefully it's on the basketball court rather than justice court or the injury list.

It applies universally to every player

There's a very select club of people repeatedly being involved in disturbing criminal allegations and being santioned by the NBA, or missing as many games as Ja does. So no, that doesn't really universally to every player in the way it does to Ja.

Nobody gives a @@@@ except you and adam “lizzard” silver. Ja is above all of this.

[yosemiteben]

It applies universally to every player

There's a very select club of people repeatedly being involved in disturbing criminal allegations and being santioned by the NBA, or missing as many games as Ja does. So no, that doesn't really universally to every player in the way it does to Ja.

Nobody gives a @@@@ except you and adam “lizzard” silver. Ja is above all of this.

I have zero interest in acquiring Ja specifically because he hasn't shown the ability to keep himself available. Giving up a bunch of assets to pair him with another PG who also struggles to stay available seems like a terrible idea to me.

[Texas Chuck]

It applies universally to every player

There's a very select club of people repeatedly being involved in disturbing criminal allegations and being santioned by the NBA, or missing as many games as Ja does. So no, that doesn't really universally to every player in the way it does to Ja.

Nobody gives a @@@@ except you and adam “lizzard” silver. Ja is above all of this.

Uh plenty of people and teams care. Its a big deal to have a face of the franchise involved in some of the things Ja has. Some teams simply woudn't touch him.

What you mean is you personally don't care because he's a good player on teh team you root for. You put his dunks over his off-court life. Which is very much your right.

Just as its the right of others to say ehhh we don't want this guy representing us and pulling guns on teenagers.

[esvl]

There's a very select club of people repeatedly being involved in disturbing criminal allegations and being santioned by the NBA, or missing as many games as Ja does. So no, that doesn't really universally to every player in the way it does to Ja.

Nobody gives a @@@@ except you and adam “lizzard” silver. Ja is above all of this.

I have zero interest in acquiring Ja specifically because he hasn't shown the ability to keep himself available. Giving up a bunch of assets to pair him with another PG who also struggles to stay available seems like a terrible idea to me.

Terrible indeed

[esvl]

There's a very select club of people repeatedly being involved in disturbing criminal allegations and being santioned by the NBA, or missing as many games as Ja does. So no, that doesn't really universally to every player in the way it does to Ja.

Nobody gives a @@@@ except you, Chuck, and adam “lizzard” silver. Ja is above all of this.

Uh plenty of people and teams care. Its a big deal to have a face of the franchise involved in some of the things Ja has. Some teams simply woudn't touch him.

What you mean is you personally don't care because he's a good player on teh team you root for. You put his dunks over his off-court life. Which is very much your right.

Just as its the right of others to say ehhh we don't want this guy representing us and pulling guns on teenagers.

Ok. I stand corrected - see above. You guys can discuss Ja’s character in your inner circle. For those who really know Ja, he is above all that crap.

[Texas Chuck]

Nobody gives a @@@@ except you, Chuck, and adam “lizzard” silver. Ja is above all of this.

Uh plenty of people and teams care. Its a big deal to have a face of the franchise involved in some of the things Ja has. Some teams simply woudn't touch him.

What you mean is you personally don't care because he's a good player on teh team you root for. You put his dunks over his off-court life. Which is very much your right.

Just as its the right of others to say ehhh we don't want this guy representing us and pulling guns on teenagers.

Ok. I stand corrected - see above. You guys can discuss Ja’s character in your inner circle. For those who really know Ja, he is above all that crap.

I'm not discussing it to judge Ja Morant. I've done plenty of stupid things in my life. I am saying its relevant to discussion about trading him because he would be a public face of a company.

As to being above it or not, it happened. I think it would be great if he has put that sort of thing behind him, but teams probably aren't going to believe that as readily as a fan, right?

[esvl]

Uh plenty of people and teams care. Its a big deal to have a face of the franchise involved in some of the things Ja has. Some teams simply woudn't touch him.

What you mean is you personally don't care because he's a good player on teh team you root for. You put his dunks over his off-court life. Which is very much your right.

Just as its the right of others to say ehhh we don't want this guy representing us and pulling guns on teenagers.

Ok. I stand corrected - see above. You guys can discuss Ja’s character in your inner circle. For those who really know Ja, he is above all that crap.

I'm not discussing it to judge Ja Morant. I've done plenty of stupid things in my life. I am saying its relevant to discussion about trading him because he would be a public face of a company.

As to being above it or not, it happened. I think it would be great if he has put that sort of thing behind him, but teams probably aren't going to believe that as readily as a fan, right?

You ARE judging. We both know it. But the point is that beyond your guys inner circle, in the real world, Ja is extremely popular worldwide. So as the old white franchise owner, you can have Simons or LaMelo as a face of your franchise or Ja. Memphis unequivocally chooses Ja. That’s it.