Grizzlies - Spurs: JJJ to SAS
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Jaren Jackson Jr. for Stephon Castle, Jeremy Sochan, 2nd Overall Draft Pick, 14th Overall Draft Pick and 2027 Unprotected Atlanta Hawks First Round Draft Pick
Why for the Spurs: A JJJ/Wemby front-court is ridiculous and he fits in with the timeline of the roster while also providing a HUGE immediate talent upgrade.
Why for the Grizzlies: They start to go full OKC teardown to retool around a treasure chest of picks after another likely follow-up Ja Morant deal by taking advantage of a dry market with a team that has a limited ceiling.
Why for the Spurs: A JJJ/Wemby front-court is ridiculous and he fits in with the timeline of the roster while also providing a HUGE immediate talent upgrade.
Why for the Grizzlies: They start to go full OKC teardown to retool around a treasure chest of picks after another likely follow-up Ja Morant deal by taking advantage of a dry market with a team that has a limited ceiling.
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Thats a giannis package, not JJJ package
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Godaddycurse wrote:Thats a giannis package, not JJJ package
Take out the '27 1st and 14th Overall?
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I'd offer Vassell, Sochan and #2 at best.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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JJJ is probably just Vassell+#2
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I am not fan of Jaren Jackson Jr. He plays soft, settles a lot, and will be paid an obscene amount of money. I don’t think his impact is worth what the Grizzlies will want in return.
I rather find a way to somehow get Turner via sign and trade.
I rather find a way to somehow get Turner via sign and trade.
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NYG wrote:Jaren Jackson Jr. for Stephon Castle, Jeremy Sochan, 2nd Overall Draft Pick, 14th Overall Draft Pick and 2027 Unprotected Atlanta Hawks First Round Draft Pick
Why for the Spurs: A JJJ/Wemby front-court is ridiculous and he fits in with the timeline of the roster while also providing a HUGE immediate talent upgrade.
Why for the Grizzlies: They start to go full OKC teardown to retool around a treasure chest of picks after another likely follow-up Ja Morant deal by taking advantage of a dry market with a team that has a limited ceiling.
As ppl have explained, that's way way too much for JJJ. He's an imminent free agent too.
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The fact that Jackson isn't able to be extended really hurts his hypothetical value. I think his fit with Wemby os very good, but the Spurs can't give up too much for a guy in that position.
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zimpy27 wrote:JJJ is probably just Vassell+#2
It's a stretch for extended JJJ, non-starter for expiring non-extendable JJJ
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Mostly unrelated.
If SAS did trade for JJJ, they could very easily dump Keldon and whatever else is needed, and sit on 15 million in cap space until the beginning of January. Renegotiate him up to 38 mil. 1.4 on top on the second year, right? So should take him to his max / close enough when considering the extra 15 million. Then use the roomMLE in a trade or maybe CP wants to take a couple months off and start his season in January instead..
Especially since Memphis will have all the cap space they had reserved for JJJ?
Really wouldn’t be hard for SAS to get to 15 million post trade.
If SAS did trade for JJJ, they could very easily dump Keldon and whatever else is needed, and sit on 15 million in cap space until the beginning of January. Renegotiate him up to 38 mil. 1.4 on top on the second year, right? So should take him to his max / close enough when considering the extra 15 million. Then use the roomMLE in a trade or maybe CP wants to take a couple months off and start his season in January instead..
Especially since Memphis will have all the cap space they had reserved for JJJ?
Really wouldn’t be hard for SAS to get to 15 million post trade.
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Grizz prefer to retool not rebuild
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NYG wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:Thats a giannis package, not JJJ package
Take out the '27 1st and 14th Overall?
Memphis got 4.5 1sts for Bane. JJJ is twice more valuable. You guys can do the math. OP is fair in my view.
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JJJ is what, a top 30 player in the league set to make 30% of the cap? Does he guarantee you anything you can't get otherwise? Are we even sure he's not getting to free agency? Are the Spurs better long term by trading for JJJ as opposed to keeping those assets?
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
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wemby wrote:JJJ is what, a top 30 player in the league set to make 30% of the cap? Does he guarantee you anything you can't get otherwise? Are we even sure he's not getting to free agency? Are the Spurs better long term by trading for JJJ as opposed to keeping those assets?
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
JJJ is your chance for the Twin Towers 2.0. It’s a big deal in my view. I doubt any team will be able to handle that frontcourt.
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esvl wrote:wemby wrote:JJJ is what, a top 30 player in the league set to make 30% of the cap? Does he guarantee you anything you can't get otherwise? Are we even sure he's not getting to free agency? Are the Spurs better long term by trading for JJJ as opposed to keeping those assets?
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
JJJ is your chance for the Twin Towers 2.0. It’s a big deal in my view. I doubt any team will be able to handle that frontcourt.
Look, let's not be disingenuous here, no team in the league offer this for JJJ, this is a crazy overpay that looks like a prime Giannis package, not for the 2nd/3rd best player on a contender. I think this is probably a bigger package than the Lakers paid for AD. I get backlash when I push back, but these proposals are ridiculous, go back and check what people were asking for Fox 6 months ago, for Durant a week ago, 90% of them drastically overestimate trade value. It's true that sometimes a team makes a crazy deal, but outliers shouldn't be the norm. This trade proposal has 0 chance of happening.
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wemby wrote:esvl wrote:wemby wrote:JJJ is what, a top 30 player in the league set to make 30% of the cap? Does he guarantee you anything you can't get otherwise? Are we even sure he's not getting to free agency? Are the Spurs better long term by trading for JJJ as opposed to keeping those assets?
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
JJJ is your chance for the Twin Towers 2.0. It’s a big deal in my view. I doubt any team will be able to handle that frontcourt.
Look, let's not be disingenuous here, no team in the league would do this, this is a crazy, ridiculous overpay that looks like a prime Giannis package, not for the 2nd/3rd best player on a contender. I think this is probably a bigger package than the Lakers paid for AD. I get backlash when I push back, but these proposals are ridiculous, go back and check what people were asking for Fox 6 months ago, for Durant a week ago, 90% of the proposals drastically overestimate trade value. It's true that sometimes a team makes a crazy deal, but outliers shouldn't be the rule. This trade proposal has 0 chance of happening.
If you prefer Wembi with AD or Durant instead of 10+ years with JJJ, I don’t mind, relax. I am just curious whether anyone would be able to score in the paint guarded by Wembi and JJJ.
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esvl wrote:If you prefer Wembi with AD or Durant instead of 10+ years with JJJ, I don’t mind, relax. I am just curious whether anyone would be able to score in the paint guarded by Wembi and JJJ.
That's a fallacy, Spurs don't have to pick between a 37 year old Durant of sell the farm for JJJ (or anyone else) right now, there are other options, like inner growth, smaller trades and signings, etc. I get the allure of the shiny toy, but quite often this is a siren's song.
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esvl wrote:wemby wrote:JJJ is what, a top 30 player in the league set to make 30% of the cap? Does he guarantee you anything you can't get otherwise? Are we even sure he's not getting to free agency? Are the Spurs better long term by trading for JJJ as opposed to keeping those assets?
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
JJJ is your chance for the Twin Towers 2.0. It’s a big deal in my view. I doubt any team will be able to handle that frontcourt.
If twin towers is the goal, someone cheap like Porzingis is the way to go. Whether you think this is what JJJ is worth or not, it makes zero sense for the Spurs to use their assets this way.
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williambh3 wrote:esvl wrote:wemby wrote:JJJ is what, a top 30 player in the league set to make 30% of the cap? Does he guarantee you anything you can't get otherwise? Are we even sure he's not getting to free agency? Are the Spurs better long term by trading for JJJ as opposed to keeping those assets?
Personally all things considered I wouldn't give up the #2 pick for him, let alone everything else. I can understand the Grizzlies keeping him though.
JJJ is your chance for the Twin Towers 2.0. It’s a big deal in my view. I doubt any team will be able to handle that frontcourt.
If twin towers is the goal, someone cheap like Porzingis is the way to go. Whether you think this is what JJJ is worth or not, it makes zero sense for the Spurs to use their assets this way.
You guys are hilarious. Porzingis is a tower. Ok. Is Sochan available?
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If I'm the Spurs I'd prefer a bruiser next to Wemby. JJJ is the same type of athletic lanky player as Wemby. VW fits better next to a more physical big IMO.
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