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Using the near-consummated trade between LAL and CHA as a precedent

Lakers trade Knect4, Kleber, cash considerations to Portland for Robert Williams and a future SRP

Rationale for LAL: don't spend any draft assets. Get a legit paint protector/lob threat. K4 fell from the rotation, so all this does is add. I feel like because of TimeLord's age, expiring contact, and injury issues, the SRP coming back gives the Lakers a future asset to package in a later trade to fill other holes as they are not really flush with assets despite getting Luka for pennies on the dollar

Rationale for POR: K4 has a role in this league, very affordable price. You already have your center for the future and if you deal Ayton (should be a top priority to clear time for Clingan) you probably can get a back-up level guy in return. players who compare to what K4 does are being mocked in the middle of the first in the draft, so it gives you some flexibility if you wanted to move off your own pick and still feel like you added someone. Kleber can, of course, be bought out, cut, or traded for a longer contract with assets attached.

Williams just isn't reliable enough for me to give up any kind of actual prospect for. If Portland would take other expiring salary and a 2nd, then maybe, but I'd absolutely exhaust more reliable centers first as the Lakers.

Ya I dont think RWIII pulls Dalton.

If LAL wants to keep a clean cap sheet in 2026 I could see Ayton being of interest though. His ability to finish above the rim in PNR would work really well w/ Luka, shores up rebounding and is a passable defender.

Ayton + Kris or Reath for Vincent + Kleber + Vandy + Dalton

Hard to do a 4-for-1 as PDX has alot of roster space taken up but they could make it work.

Its basicly portland dumping dead salary on lakers, it would cost more then 2nds

How about

RWIII <=> Vando + Knecht4

Blazers take on longer salary, but get an asset to trade in the future.
Lakers clean up their books.

Texas Chuck wrote:Williams just isn't reliable enough for me to give up any kind of actual prospect for. If Portland would take other expiring salary and a 2nd, then maybe, but I'd absolutely exhaust more reliable centers first as the Lakers.

This. RWIII has missed more games than he's played in each of the last 3 seasons, and by a pretty big margin. At this point he's negative value until proven otherwise.

The idea of Ayton + Reath for Knecht + scraping together some of LA's multiple $10M ish expirings makes sense though, especially if they can do it without including Rui or DFS.

tester551 wrote:How about

RWIII <=> Vando + Knecht4

Blazers take on longer salary, but get an asset to trade in the future.
Lakers clean up their books.

Vando's salary isn't enough that LAL should attach a semi-decent prospect like Knecht to turn into a total dead weight salary, which is what you have to value RWIII as at this point.

BlazersBroncos wrote:Ya I dont think RWIII pulls Dalton.

If LAL wants to keep a clean cap sheet in 2026 I could see Ayton being of interest though. His ability to finish above the rim in PNR would work really well w/ Luka, shores up rebounding and is a passable defender.

Ayton + Kris or Reath for Vincent + Kleber + Vandy + Dalton

Hard to do a 4-for-1 as PDX has alot of roster space taken up but they could make it work.

That's a good deal, but you should trade Grany + Vincent + Kleber + Thybule for Dame + PatC, Bucks get servicable players, POR clear Grant 3rd year.

Mavrelous wrote:

BlazersBroncos wrote:Ya I dont think RWIII pulls Dalton.

If LAL wants to keep a clean cap sheet in 2026 I could see Ayton being of interest though. His ability to finish above the rim in PNR would work really well w/ Luka, shores up rebounding and is a passable defender.

Ayton + Kris or Reath for Vincent + Kleber + Vandy + Dalton

Hard to do a 4-for-1 as PDX has alot of roster space taken up but they could make it work.

That's a good deal, but you should trade Grany + Vincent + Kleber + Thybule for Dame + PatC, Bucks get servicable players, POR clear Grant 3rd year.

I think MIL would want Simons if they move Dame - and I would happily oblige -

PDX OUT - Grant, Simons, 11
PDX IN - Dame, 15, 44, 2031 MIL FRP UNP

MIL OUT - Dame, 2031 MIL FRP UNP UNP
MIL IN - Grant, Simons, 24

OKC OUT - 15, 24, 44
OKC IN - 11

*** Seperate deal - Connaughton for Kleber ***

PDX shaves a year from Grant, gets a future high variance FRP and only slightly moves down in 2025.
MIL goes win-now - Grant and Simons are 2 starters for them and they get a FRP in this draft.
OKC consolidates in a move up.

Really clears PDX vet glut -

G - Scoot Henderson / Gabe Vincent / Egor Demin (15)
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Matisse Thybulle / Pat Connaughton
F - Toumani Camara / Dalton Knetch / Rayan Rupert
F - Deni Avdija / Jarrett Vanderbilt / Rayan Rupert
C - Donovan Clingan / Duop Reath / Yannic Neiderhauser (44)

IR Dame, RWIII

hugepatsfan wrote:

tester551 wrote:How about

RWIII <=> Vando + Knecht4

Blazers take on longer salary, but get an asset to trade in the future.
Lakers clean up their books.

Vando's salary isn't enough that LAL should attach a semi-decent prospect like Knecht to turn into a total dead weight salary, which is what you have to value RWIII as at this point.

Even if we just look at RWIII as an expiring contract, Vando has multiple years left. No one is taking on those extra years without compensation.

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:

hugepatsfan wrote:

tester551 wrote:How about

RWIII <=> Vando + Knecht4

Blazers take on longer salary, but get an asset to trade in the future.
Lakers clean up their books.

Vando's salary isn't enough that LAL should attach a semi-decent prospect like Knecht to turn into a total dead weight salary, which is what you have to value RWIII as at this point.

Even if we just look at RWIII as an expiring contract, Vando has multiple years left. No one is taking on those extra years without compensation.

Sure, I agree there. But it's not such a heinous multi year deal that a team is going to use a mid 1st rounder from last year who didn't play terribly as that value.

Yeh sorry not trading Knecht for injury prone Robert Williams, Lakers already said no to the other Williams in Mark, so don't see why they do this.

SlimShady83 wrote:Yeh sorry not trading Knecht for injury prone Robert Williams, Lakers already said no to the other Williams in Mark, so don't see why they do this.

Because they are getting back a SRP and NOT giving up a high value FRP. It's a drastically different price tag.

It's pretty much RW3 for Kleber at this point. Injured C for Injured C

May as well keep RW.

tester551 wrote:How about

RWIII <=> Vando + Knecht4

Blazers take on longer salary, but get an asset to trade in the future.
Lakers clean up their books.

If the Lakers viewed Vando as a bad contract, this would make sense. But they likely don't.