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New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:51 pm
by hoopsfan777
New Orleans outgoing

CJ McCollum
'26 MIL 1st

Utah outgoing

Colin Sexton
Jordan Clarkson
#5

New Orleans gets a starting point guard for this season and scoring off the bench. Pelicans get two shots at good players at #5 and #7.

Utah adds a veteran scorer/shooter and banks on the 2026 Milwaukee 1st round pick being a lotto pick in a better draft.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:59 pm
by AingesBurner
Easy pass for Utah.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:01 pm
by babyjax13
Nope. Milwaukee still has Giannis.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:26 pm
by mg
That is horrible for Utah. What are they going to do with CJ? You could include #7 and Utah would still pass.

As long as Giannis is still in Milwuakee that pick is going to be mid at best.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:29 pm
by psman2
This would have to be after Giannis is no longer a Buck.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:30 pm
by hoopsfan777
psman2 wrote:This would have to be after Giannis is no longer a Buck.


Pelicans keep the pick if Giannis is traded.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:30 pm
by babyjax13
hoopsfan777 wrote:
psman2 wrote:This would have to be after Giannis is no longer a Buck.


Pelicans keep the pick if Giannis is traded.

Then you can't expect to trade it for a top 5 pick.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:32 pm
by psman2
hoopsfan777 wrote:
psman2 wrote:This would have to be after Giannis is no longer a Buck.


Pelicans keep the pick if Giannis is traded.


Catch 22.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:32 pm
by jayjaysee
I think it’s closer with 7 than without 7. Really far off imo.

At 5 you get whoever is left of Bailey, VJ, Tre. Or get to pick whoever you like best out of the other guys..

NOP also really shouldn’t be trading their own future picks. But obviously should do the OP..

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:43 pm
by giberish
The Pels can't trade just the Mil pick - they don't have it.

They've got the better pick between themselves and Mil. As both teams are (IMO) likely to be in the lottery I'd have the value of that pick around #5-7 in this draft. It probably ends up later than that but the upside of the future pick gets it into that range.

I don't see the point of the player swap. Sexton and McCollum are very similar on-court and Clarkson makes up the salary difference.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:12 pm
by WinterSoldier
giberish wrote:The Pels can't trade just the Mil pick - they don't have it.

They've got the better pick between themselves and Mil. As both teams are (IMO) likely to be in the lottery I'd have the value of that pick around #5-7 in this draft. It probably ends up later than that but the upside of the future pick gets it into that range.

I don't see the point of the player swap. Sexton and McCollum are very similar on-court and Clarkson makes up the salary difference.


I'm assuming that it's a pick swap? So trading the Mil pick is worth nothing then. It would be insane to bet on the Bucks with Giannis being worse than the Pelicans.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:18 pm
by Daddy 801
Politely…I had to read it three times because this proposal is so bad I assumed I was missing something.

Why on earth would Utah do this?

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:35 am
by giberish
WinterSoldier wrote:
giberish wrote:The Pels can't trade just the Mil pick - they don't have it.

They've got the better pick between themselves and Mil. As both teams are (IMO) likely to be in the lottery I'd have the value of that pick around #5-7 in this draft. It probably ends up later than that but the upside of the future pick gets it into that range.

I don't see the point of the player swap. Sexton and McCollum are very similar on-court and Clarkson makes up the salary difference.


I'm assuming that it's a pick swap? So trading the Mil pick is worth nothing then. It would be insane to bet on the Bucks with Giannis being worse than the Pelicans.


It's not a pick swap. It's a 'better of' pick. NO has the better of their pick or the Bucks. The Bucks have the worst pick between them.

I have Mil more likely than not to be in the lotter with Lillard out all year and NO almost certainly in the lottery. The better of status then gives two chances to move up into the top-4.

Re: New Orleans / Utah

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:43 am
by SkyHook
giberish wrote:
WinterSoldier wrote:
giberish wrote:The Pels can't trade just the Mil pick - they don't have it.

They've got the better pick between themselves and Mil. As both teams are (IMO) likely to be in the lottery I'd have the value of that pick around #5-7 in this draft. It probably ends up later than that but the upside of the future pick gets it into that range.

I don't see the point of the player swap. Sexton and McCollum are very similar on-court and Clarkson makes up the salary difference.


I'm assuming that it's a pick swap? So trading the Mil pick is worth nothing then. It would be insane to bet on the Bucks with Giannis being worse than the Pelicans.


It's not a pick swap. It's a 'better of' pick. NO has the better of their pick or the Bucks. The Bucks have the worst pick between them.

I have Mil more likely than not to be in the lotter with Lillard out all year and NO almost certainly in the lottery. The better of status then gives two chances to move up into the top-4.


That's precisely what a pick swap is, the right to have the "better of" two picks. How do you see this as anything different? Semantics? If you're trading it, you're trading the NOP pick along with the swap rights with MIL. Unless you're adding another layer of swaps and then you just call it a pick swap.