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#10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:25 pm
by Xman
Houston really has no need to pick another guy to sit on the bench at pick #10. First option is to trade for a star - but, if nothing works, what future picks could be had? Gotta figure a lottery pick now in a strong draft is worth two future firsts.
BRKN: I would not mind getting those NY picks in 2027 and 2029. Is both fair for #10?
- Houston already has the best two of BKN/HOU/PHX in 2027 and the best two of DAL/HOU/PHX in 2029 - getting two more picks in those drafts could work out well.
CHA: Does CHA offer up the 2027 DAL 1st (pro top 2) and MIA 2027 1st (pro 14, unpro)?
MEM: Would Mem send the 2 ORL firsts (2028/30)?
SAC: Minny 2031 1st and 2027 SA 1st?
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:29 pm
by wemby
For reference last year the Spurs got an unprotected pick + unprotected swap from the TWolves for #8. Could be more, could be less, it depends on who is available and how bad a team wants him.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:31 pm
by Texas Chuck
Brooklyn really feels like the wrong team with all the picks they already have.
None of those other teams should consider anything like that unless they absolutely love a guy and then everyone but Charlotte is overpaying with no protections at all.
But hey if you can get it, get it, but I think you've aimed high. And remember its not about "strong draft" its about specific player. And ask yourself what player projected to be there you would give up 2 unprotected future 1sts for. I think you will conclude that guy doesn't exist. Because if he did, Houston would gladly draft him.
Unlike wemby's example above, none of the teams you listed feel a player away. And I think its likely Minnesota would like a do-over so not a strong selling point for another team.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:31 pm
by psman2
Memphis….idea is interesting, but I don’t think we want the rookie salary if we plan to redo JJJ’s deal.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:35 pm
by MoreyWins
I'd probably first look at getting a 2026 1st. I would see if the Kings want to trade their pick that year, unprotected. I'm also not opposed to just taking Cedric Coward and developing him in-house.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:38 pm
by jayjaysee
I think Brooklyn should do that deal and the other team shouldn’t. NYK feels stable-enough and Brooklyn should be trying to trade their lesser assets
If Presti likes someone enough to want to trade up I think it could look like..
15 to team X
2026 Denver first, team X future first to Houston
10 to OKC
Presti probably tries to make it the worse 2026 first, Houston probably asks for the best.. so I went with the Denver first?
But 15 should net a decent future first as well.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:40 pm
by gswhoops
Texas Chuck wrote:Brooklyn really feels like the wrong team with all the picks they already have.
Yeah the only way I could see this is if Brooklyn already has a plan in place to consolidate some of their picks to move up/for a better asset. There's no way they can make and keep 6(!) picks in one draft year.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:41 pm
by hoopsfan777
2026 Milwaukee 1st round pick.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:42 pm
by wemby
Texas Chuck wrote:And remember its not about "strong draft" its about specific player. And ask yourself what player projected to be there you would give up 2 unprotected future 1sts for. I think you will conclude that guy doesn't exist. Because if he did, Houston would gladly draft him.
I agree about thinking in terms of players rather than slot, but just because you don't think a player is worth something it doesn't necessarily mean everyone else shares the same valuation. Case in point, Spurs clearly didn't value Dillingham anywhere near as much as the TWolves did. Maybe this year it could be Derik Queen, Jakuciunis, Essengue... who knows. I think 2 unprotected firsts in very, very unlikely but I could see an unprotected first + unprotected swap, or unprotected pick + protected pick of lesser value, multiple protected picks (like the Thunder sent the Knicks for #11 in 2022 in order to take Ousmane Dieng), etc.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:44 pm
by wemby
hoopsfan777 wrote:2026 Milwaukee 1st round pick.
That sounds interesting for a team who could be a Giannis destination. Add swap rights to their pick in 27 and yoiu have yourself a nice package for 10, Good job.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:45 pm
by hugepatsfan
Celtics reportedly want to move up and depending on what their other moves are, it's conceivable they'd be a play in team in the East which puts their 2026 pick in the range of #10-18 next year.
if they end up salary dumping Jrue/Porzingis for slop and give away Hauser to duck the tax, along with Tatum out and Brown having surgery, seems like there's good upside on that pick. HOU might not have the benefit of knowing BOS is going that route though on draft night though which makes it tough to reconcile.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:47 pm
by Texas Chuck
wemby wrote: just because you don't think a player is worth something it doesn't necessarily mean everyone else shares the same valuation. .
Of course. I feel like its understood that's my opinion.
And I am aware I value unprotected 1sts more than most. Others are comfortable projecting picks years into the future, and I am not, so I always factor in some upwards variance.
But yes if a team loves a player, they should go get the player.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:57 pm
by drchaos
Xman wrote:Houston really has no need to pick another guy to sit on the bench at pick #10. First option is to trade for a star - but, if nothing works, what future picks could be had? Gotta figure a lottery pick now in a strong draft is worth two future firsts.
BRKN: I would not mind getting those NY picks in 2027 and 2029. Is both fair for #10?
- Houston already has the best two of BKN/HOU/PHX in 2027 and the best two of DAL/HOU/PHX in 2029 - getting two more picks in those drafts could work out well.
CHA: Does CHA offer up the 2027 DAL 1st (pro top 2) and MIA 2027 1st (pro 14, unpro)?
MEM: Would Mem send the 2 ORL firsts (2028/30)?
SAC: Minny 2031 1st and 2027 SA 1st?
If the Nets are putting both Knicks picks into the pot the 2027 pick swap should be coming back with that # 10 pick.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:00 pm
by SkyHook
hoopsfan777 wrote:2026 Milwaukee 1st round pick.
Assuming that since the Pels don't own the 2026 Bucks FRP outright that this is the NOP pick with the MIL swap rights.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:25 pm
by K_chile22
drchaos wrote:Xman wrote:Houston really has no need to pick another guy to sit on the bench at pick #10. First option is to trade for a star - but, if nothing works, what future picks could be had? Gotta figure a lottery pick now in a strong draft is worth two future firsts.
BRKN: I would not mind getting those NY picks in 2027 and 2029. Is both fair for #10?
- Houston already has the best two of BKN/HOU/PHX in 2027 and the best two of DAL/HOU/PHX in 2029 - getting two more picks in those drafts could work out well.
CHA: Does CHA offer up the 2027 DAL 1st (pro top 2) and MIA 2027 1st (pro 14, unpro)?
MEM: Would Mem send the 2 ORL firsts (2028/30)?
SAC: Minny 2031 1st and 2027 SA 1st?
If the Nets are putting both Knicks picks into the pot the 2027 pick swap should be coming back with that # 10 pick.
I mean.. I heavily heavily doubt the nets will be better than the Knicks in two seasons and id rather have #10 than that 29 pick that could maybe be as good as 10 so, no
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:27 pm
by gswhoops
If Kon falls to 10 then I'd definitely offer up some Warriors future picks...but at that point Houston probably just takes him instead of handing him to a conference rival
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:29 pm
by wemby
gswhoops wrote:If Kon falls to 10 then I'd definitely offer up some Warriors future picks...but at that point Houston probably just takes him instead of handing him to a conference rival
If Kon falls to 9, Spurs should aggressively try to move up to get him. I don't see that happening though.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:30 pm
by gswhoops
wemby wrote:gswhoops wrote:If Kon falls to 10 then I'd definitely offer up some Warriors future picks...but at that point Houston probably just takes him instead of handing him to a conference rival
If Kon falls to 9, Spurs should aggressively try to move up to get him. I don't see that happening though.
Yeah agree. I think it's more likely Kon sneaks into the top 5 than is still around at 10.
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:43 pm
by Xman
[quote="drchaos"][quote="Xman"]Houston really has no need to pick another guy to sit on the bench at pick #10. First option is to trade for a star - but, if nothing works, what future picks could be had? Gotta figure a lottery pick now in a strong draft is worth two future firsts.
BRKN: I would not mind getting those NY picks in 2027 and 2029. Is both fair for #10?
- Houston already has the best two of BKN/HOU/PHX in 2027 and the best two of DAL/HOU/PHX in 2029 - getting two more picks in those drafts could work out well.
CHA: Does CHA offer up the 2027 DAL 1st (pro top 2) and MIA 2027 1st (pro 14, unpro)?
MEM: Would Mem send the 2 ORL firsts (2028/30)?
SAC: Minny 2031 1st and 2027 SA 1st?[/quote]
If the Nets are putting both Knicks picks into the pot the 2027 pick swap should be coming back with that # 10 pick.[/quote]
That swap is worth more than 10. Bkn pick should be at least mid lottery.
Those Knicks picks are likely 19-25 range. So, might not be enough to get 10.
Also, Houston could let someone add top 2 or 4 protection on picks so not totally unprotected (like NO did Milwaukee pick).
Re: #10 gets what future picks?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:23 pm
by jakecronus8
Since Giannis is staying the Bucks could offer the 2031 + 2032 swap and possibly take Jock's additional year for Connaughton's expiring. Not sure that would be prudent on their end but they could be desperate to add talent and the further away the pick is the higher likelihood it ends up being a premium pick with Giannis in the fold.