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Bulls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:07 pm
by Texas Chuck
Bulls trade: Coby White/#45
Bulls get: Josh Okogie/Hardy/#33/2029 LAL 1st (unp)
Hornets trade: Okogie/#33/#34
Hornets get: Gafford/#45
Mavs trade: Gafford/Hardy/#29 LAL 1st
Mavs get: White/#34
Bulls get an unprotected 1st and move up to the top of the 2nd for White.
Hornets trade one good 2nd and move back to the middle of the 2nd with their other for a rim running center to pair with/replace Williams
Mavs give up an unprotected 1st and Gafford to get a low salary replacement for Kyrie for a year. Dump Hardy for some 2nd apron clearance and pick up a good 2nd to try and find a cheap contributor.
Note: If Washington is seen as having the same value as White, it would be smarter imo for Dallas to trade him to a team for that value to forward to Chicago, but I'm not sure so went this direction.
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:11 pm
by Mavrelous
Okogie should be Green in this deal.
If I'm paying this price, I'll make sure Lakers aren't taking this offer for Reaves who I have as a better player.
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:11 pm
by Godaddycurse
Tough seeing bulls trade White after their FO was just extended/praised for remaining competitive...
value looks good though
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:11 pm
by hugepatsfan
I think a 2029 1st is too much to give up for Coby White, but I actually don't think CHI would take it. They're just a stubborn organization that doesn't seem really interested in bottoming out and I do think that White's strengths and shortcomings pair decently well with Giddey so I see CHI wanting to roll with that for a bit.
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:12 pm
by daoneandonly
White isn't worth an unprotected pick, not today, yesterday, or ever.
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:15 pm
by facothomas22
This sounds about right value wise.However I don't see the Bulls actually trading Coby White for anything less than a major overpay.
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:17 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mavrelous wrote:Okogie should be Green in this deal.
If I'm paying this price, I'll make sure Lakers aren't taking this offer for Reaves who I have as a better player.
Seems like a crazy good deal for Charlotte to exchange Green for Gafford for one 2nd and dropping a dozen spots with the other. I didn't think I had overvalued Gafford here, but thats what you seem to be suggesting?
Re: Bulls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:18 pm
by Texas Chuck
Also was going to post a PJ Washington version of White to Dallas, but if the idea is Chicago won't trade him regardless, I guess you guys get spared lol.
Re: Buls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:23 pm
by Mavrelous
Texas Chuck wrote:Mavrelous wrote:Okogie should be Green in this deal.
If I'm paying this price, I'll make sure Lakers aren't taking this offer for Reaves who I have as a better player.
Seems like a crazy good deal for Charlotte to exchange Green for Gafford for one 2nd and dropping a dozen spots with the other. I didn't think I had overvalued Gafford here, but thats what you seem to be suggesting?
W/o the #45 going to CHO.
I have Gafford worth #33 with neutral matching, CHOnwould prefer not to add to their cap to get him, Bulls shouldn't mind getting Green.
Re: Bulls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:02 pm
by Darren
I'd rather have Lonzo Ball and a 1st from Bulls for Daniel Gafford.
Re: Bulls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:06 pm
by Texas Chuck
Darren wrote:I'd rather have Lonzo Ball and a 1st from Bulls for Daniel Gafford.
We all want things. Pretty sure there is little chance of Chicago giving Dallas a first for Gafford though.

Re: Bulls/Hornets/Mavs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:47 pm
by ChettheJet
This starts out not happening because the Bulls just extended the FO and coach that like White, they aren't running him out of town so if they move him and risk him looking great somewhere else, they better get something. The Karnasovas extension goes through 2028 so you're asking him to take a pick after his contract runs out. He ain't worried about the next guy in his job
The Bulls always get Hardy who right now would be behind Ball, Giddey, Huerter, maybe resigned Tre Jones, maybe #12, Carter, Terry, maybe #33 so come on he's more trouble than he's worth, Okogie is not guaranteed and gone.