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Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:24 pm
by youngcrev
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2025-26 salary

Cam Johnson - 20.5M
#8 pick - 5.7M
26.2M

Kelly Oubre - 8.4M
Andre Drummond - 5M
Eric Gordon - 3.5M
#3 pick - 9.3M
$26.2M

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The Nets move up to take a swing on upside. This roster is pretty bare bones and with the underwhelming free agent market feels destined for a tanking year. This eyes the 2026 off season to make major moves (although I haven't bothered to look at free agency that year yet).

The Sixers slide back and continue to play the 2 timelines game. Cam gives them a quality starter while they can look for a long-term outlook swing at #8 with less pressure to perform immediately. Salary neutral move, but does add a few million to the cap when you factor in roster spots.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:39 pm
by brackdan70
I could see this or something like it.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:01 pm
by jayjaysee
I’d be asking for the 2028 first back here? Or any future first I guess, since Philly isn’t limited due to owning the LAC first and the pick they owe is well enough protected..

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:01 pm
by PhillyNj
brackdan70 wrote:I could see this or something like it.

Not me. This isn’t enough to move up to three!

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:05 pm
by brackdan70
PhillyNj wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:I could see this or something like it.

Not me. This isn’t enough to move up to three!

I guess it comes down to how Philly views Cam and the prospects at 3-8. I do t see a huge separation there in 3-8, and I like Cam as really solid player.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:08 pm
by zaz102
I would do this if I knew Embiid is healthy. Since he's most likely not, I'd rather just have the better prospect.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:27 pm
by Netaman
i think this was a yossi gozlan trade suggestion and it makes a good deal of sense. i think he had it in a version where the nets took on a little more salary than this to get philly below whatever threshold they project to be close to if they resign grimes. i think there is something to a framework along these lines.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:04 pm
by youngcrev
Netaman wrote:i think this was a yossi gozlan trade suggestion and it makes a good deal of sense. i think he had it in a version where the nets took on a little more salary than this to get philly below whatever threshold they project to be close to if they resign grimes. i think there is something to a framework along these lines.


Not sure if there's benefit cap wise to adding more players to this from a rules perspective. If there is, guys like Lonnie Walker and Ricky Council, but they have contracts that aren't guaranteed, so it doesn't really help team salary.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:19 pm
by Arsenal
Include the PHI 28 1st returned and it's a done deal.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:25 pm
by Netaman
youngcrev wrote:
Netaman wrote:i think this was a yossi gozlan trade suggestion and it makes a good deal of sense. i think he had it in a version where the nets took on a little more salary than this to get philly below whatever threshold they project to be close to if they resign grimes. i think there is something to a framework along these lines.


Not sure if there's benefit cap wise to adding more players to this from a rules perspective. If there is, guys like Lonnie Walker and Ricky Council, but they have contracts that aren't guaranteed, so it doesn't really help team salary.


here's one i found that yosi suggested, i could have sworn there was another one with camj in it too but i cant find that one. i think he means the 2027 PHI protected 1st the nets own that rolls over to 2028 if not conveyed here.

Watch on YouTube
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Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:57 pm
by the_process
The pick money doesn't count on draft night, so this would hard cap Philly at the 1st apron, which should be a no go.

Oubre, Council, Drummond, Walker, Gordon, and 3 for Cam, 8, and 28 1st returned works right now.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:40 pm
by youngcrev
the_process wrote:The pick money doesn't count on draft night, so this would hard cap Philly at the 1st apron, which should be a no go.

Oubre, Council, Drummond, Walker, Gordon, and 3 for Cam, 8, and 28 1st returned works right now.


If adding Walker/Council avoids that, it makes sense. I can't keep track of what triggers which hard cap (1st vs 2nd apron)

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:02 pm
by ProcessDoctor
The homerun swap here is:

#3/George for #8/Johnson/Claxton/2027 PHI 1st

Otherwise, just stand pat if you're Philly.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:29 pm
by Tim Lehrbach
Just draft Edgecombe.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:43 pm
by HornetJail
3 for 8 + ___ needs a much better player than Johnson filling that blank

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:09 pm
by TheNetsFan
ProcessDoctor wrote:The homerun swap here is:

#3/George for #8/Johnson/Claxton/2027 PHI 1st

Otherwise, just stand pat if you're Philly.

You're not turning the albatross PG contract into Johnson and Claxton plus getting 2 picks back especially one as good as #8.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:13 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
TheNetsFan wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:The homerun swap here is:

#3/George for #8/Johnson/Claxton/2027 PHI 1st

Otherwise, just stand pat if you're Philly.

You're not turning the albatross PG contract into Johnson and Claxton plus getting 2 picks back especially one as good as #8.


Yeah if Brooklyn had bad filler I could see the 3/PG for 8 swap.

But I think this one is closer without 8 (but keep the 27 1st) and maybe add a future pick or the lesser BKN picks.

PG, 3 for Cam, Clax, 19, 26, 2027 PHI 1st

I don’t think Philly should do that but it’s better on value imo

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:37 pm
by ProcessDoctor
TheNetsFan wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:The homerun swap here is:

#3/George for #8/Johnson/Claxton/2027 PHI 1st

Otherwise, just stand pat if you're Philly.

You're not turning the albatross PG contract into Johnson and Claxton plus getting 2 picks back especially one as good as #8.


Yea, my point is, there is no deal to be had IMO.

Re: Nets/Sixers (#3/Oubre/filler for #8/CJ)

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:20 am
by jredsaz
Arsenal wrote:Include the PHI 28 1st returned and it's a done deal.


That sounds about right to me.