Suns/Rockets/Hornets/Bulls

[GoBobs]

Suns out: Durrant
Suns in: Vucevic, Jabari Smith Jr, 1st round pick, #34

Why for suns, save money and get players that will help right away plus some picks for Durrant

Rockets in: Durrant
Rockets out: Jalen Green, Jabari Smith Jr, 1st round pick

Why for rockets: conolidate assets and get the best player in the trade

Bulls in: Nurkic, 2026 first that is worst of three teams
Bulls out: Vucevic

Why for bulls: get a 1st for Vucevic

Hornets out: Nurkic, 2026 first that is worst of 3 teams, #34
Hornets in: Jalen Green

Why for Hornets: they need guys that can play

[HornetJail]

no interest whatsoever in Green, we're just in here to donate value to be used for Durant

[LarsV8]

No Jabari in a Durant deal.

[MoreyWins]

No Jabari, Tari, or Reed. The Rocketa front office has made that known for weeks.

[Dominator83]

Jabari Smith is untouchable? Jesus why do fans and sometimes FOs overrate the crap out of meh players just because they're young?

[Xman]

Jabari isn’t untouchable but he could make a GM look bad for trading him.
He was a three point specialist in college 42 percent. Around 36 now. If he gets back to 39 or higher with his defense, wow. Hard to let him go when he could be special. But, same thing was said about Jalen last year and some are still waiting and hoping on him also.

[spankymoore7]

Cut Charlotte out. No interest in adding Jalen Green to the roster

[ChettheJet]

define 'worst' for me is it #8, #18 or #28?

unless it's under #22 I can't see it being worth it to the Bulls to haul around 3rd string Nurkic for a season. They'd start Zach Collins, they've got Jalen Smith to play significant minutes but Nurkic soaks up $19M that they can't spend to get anybody who could contribute. Then come next summer Nurkic expires for a nice chunk of cap space, so does Collins for nearly as much and the Bulls have to hope there are a pair of centers on the FA market because all they've got in the pantry is Smith. That's a project draft pick and a gamble of what centers will be out there and do any of them want to come to CHI

let somebody else help KD move

[jredsaz]

No Jabari, Tari, or Reed. The Rocketa front office has made that known for weeks.

Then probably not going to get KD without a good future first. Free and 10 isn’t going to beat. All these are better reported offers.

Vassell + filler + 14
Wiggins + Jovic + filler + 20 + future first
RJ + IQ + filler + 9
Gobert or Randle + DDV + filler + 17

Green appears to have some poor value on the market or else I think this deal is already done.

And I get the natural response of “who cares” but I think that’s shortsighted. That team with KD is a contender now. Even minus Jabari and 10 the Rockets are set up very well long term.

[MoreyWins]

No Jabari, Tari, or Reed. The Rocketa front office has made that known for weeks.

Then probably not going to get KD without a good future first. Free and 10 isn’t going to beat. All these are better reported offers.

Vassell + filler + 14
Wiggins + Jovic + filler + 20 + future first
RJ + IQ + filler + 9
Gobert or Randle + DDV + filler + 17

Green appears to have some poor value on the market or else I think this deal is already done.

And I get the natural response of “who cares” but I think that’s shortsighted. That team with KD is a contender now. Even minus Jabari and 10 the Rockets are set up very well long term.

The Rockets are negotiating from a position of leverage. The front office does not seem hesitant to offer the 10th overall pick for KD. Other teams like Minnesota and Miami seem hesitant to complete the trade for whatever reason. Minnesota is probably worried about losing Durant and Gobert for nothing, and Miami is worried about putting too many of their chips in for Kevin Durant. I don't think Toronto is seriously going to offer the 9th pick, it seems silly to make that move in their position. I also don't see the big difference between Green & 10 versus Vassell & 14. Both teams have young SGs that have to get rerouted, and both teams have lottery picks in one of the most interesting middles of the draft in years.

I don't think Houston is guaranteed to win the KD sweepstakes, but right now the best thing to do is wait. Wait for Phoenix to blink before the draft, and if they don't they then they should feel comfortable drafting at #10.

[Kiss of Death]

People are really overestimating the Rockets interest in Durant.

It’s already been established that a 37 year old doesn’t fit with their core and they have no interest in giving up a lot to get him.

He’s probably headed to Miami.

[KdoubleDees23]

Jabari Smith is untouchable? Jesus why do fans and sometimes FOs overrate the crap out of meh players just because they're young?

The management said this, not the fans.

[jredsaz]

No Jabari, Tari, or Reed. The Rocketa front office has made that known for weeks.

Then probably not going to get KD without a good future first. Free and 10 isn’t going to beat. All these are better reported offers.

Vassell + filler + 14
Wiggins + Jovic + filler + 20 + future first
RJ + IQ + filler + 9
Gobert or Randle + DDV + filler + 17

Green appears to have some poor value on the market or else I think this deal is already done.

And I get the natural response of “who cares” but I think that’s shortsighted. That team with KD is a contender now. Even minus Jabari and 10 the Rockets are set up very well long term.

The Rockets are negotiating from a position of leverage. The front office does not seem hesitant to offer the 10th overall pick for KD. Other teams like Minnesota and Miami seem hesitant to complete the trade for whatever reason. Minnesota is probably worried about losing Durant and Gobert for nothing, and Miami is worried about putting too many of their chips in for Kevin Durant. I don't think Toronto is seriously going to offer the 9th pick, it seems silly to make that move in their position. I also don't see the big difference between Green & 10 versus Vassell & 14. Both teams have young SGs that have to get rerouted, and both teams have lottery picks in one of the most interesting middles of the draft in years.

I don't think Houston is guaranteed to win the KD sweepstakes, but right now the best thing to do is wait. Wait for Phoenix to blink before the draft, and if they don't they then they should feel comfortable drafting at #10.

I mean you painted every other option in the worst possible light for the Suns position and the best possible for the Rockets Like I said the leverage is actually getting KD. Green doesn’t have any value in the market and makes more than every player on that list save for Gobert and IQ, both much better players. My point stands, that offer is probably the worst available. Seems like we find out today or tomorrow.

[jredsaz]

People are really overestimating the Rockets interest in Durant.

It’s already been established that a 37 year old doesn’t fit with their core and they have no interest in giving up a lot to get him.

He’s probably headed to Miami.

If the offer remains Green + 10 + filler, you’re absolutely correct. They don’t really want him.

[MoreyWins]

Then probably not going to get KD without a good future first. Free and 10 isn’t going to beat. All these are better reported offers.

Vassell + filler + 14
Wiggins + Jovic + filler + 20 + future first
RJ + IQ + filler + 9
Gobert or Randle + DDV + filler + 17

Green appears to have some poor value on the market or else I think this deal is already done.

And I get the natural response of “who cares” but I think that’s shortsighted. That team with KD is a contender now. Even minus Jabari and 10 the Rockets are set up very well long term.

The Rockets are negotiating from a position of leverage. The front office does not seem hesitant to offer the 10th overall pick for KD. Other teams like Minnesota and Miami seem hesitant to complete the trade for whatever reason. Minnesota is probably worried about losing Durant and Gobert for nothing, and Miami is worried about putting too many of their chips in for Kevin Durant. I don't think Toronto is seriously going to offer the 9th pick, it seems silly to make that move in their position. I also don't see the big difference between Green & 10 versus Vassell & 14. Both teams have young SGs that have to get rerouted, and both teams have lottery picks in one of the most interesting middles of the draft in years.

I don't think Houston is guaranteed to win the KD sweepstakes, but right now the best thing to do is wait. Wait for Phoenix to blink before the draft, and if they don't they then they should feel comfortable drafting at #10.

I mean you painted every other option in the worst possible light for the Suns position and the best possible for the Rockets Like I said the leverage is actually getting KD. Green doesn’t have any value in the market and makes more than every player on that list save for Gobert and IQ, both much better players. My point stands, that offer is probably the worst available. Seems like we find out today or tomorrow.

I'm not the one that painted Minnesota or Toronto as bad options, KD and his agent did themselves lmao. Green not having value in the market probably isn't true. All 29 other teams in the league don't value the same thing. If you're asking him to be the go-to scorer for a Western Conference playoff team, then yeah he's not a good option. If you're a bottom seven team in the East trying to sell anything of promise to your fans, then you're probably looking at Jalen Green differently. If you're a bottom feeder team that struggles to attract talented free agents and have drafted busts recently, you probably take the proven 23 year old 20 point scorer if a team is just giving him away on a discount.

[jredsaz]

No Jabari, Tari, or Reed. The Rocketa front office has made that known for weeks.

Then probably not going to get KD without a good future first. Free and 10 isn’t going to beat. All these are better reported offers.

Vassell + filler + 14
Wiggins + Jovic + filler + 20 + future first
RJ + IQ + filler + 9
Gobert or Randle + DDV + filler + 17

Green appears to have some poor value on the market or else I think this deal is already done.

And I get the natural response of “who cares” but I think that’s shortsighted. That team with KD is a contender now. Even minus Jabari and 10 the Rockets are set up very well long term.

Well I was wrong Yikes

[jredsaz]

The Rockets are negotiating from a position of leverage. The front office does not seem hesitant to offer the 10th overall pick for KD. Other teams like Minnesota and Miami seem hesitant to complete the trade for whatever reason. Minnesota is probably worried about losing Durant and Gobert for nothing, and Miami is worried about putting too many of their chips in for Kevin Durant. I don't think Toronto is seriously going to offer the 9th pick, it seems silly to make that move in their position. I also don't see the big difference between Green & 10 versus Vassell & 14. Both teams have young SGs that have to get rerouted, and both teams have lottery picks in one of the most interesting middles of the draft in years.

I don't think Houston is guaranteed to win the KD sweepstakes, but right now the best thing to do is wait. Wait for Phoenix to blink before the draft, and if they don't they then they should feel comfortable drafting at #10.

I mean you painted every other option in the worst possible light for the Suns position and the best possible for the Rockets Like I said the leverage is actually getting KD. Green doesn’t have any value in the market and makes more than every player on that list save for Gobert and IQ, both much better players. My point stands, that offer is probably the worst available. Seems like we find out today or tomorrow.

I'm not the one that painted Minnesota or Toronto as bad options, KD and his agent did themselves lmao. Green not having value in the market probably isn't true. All 29 other teams in the league don't value the same thing. If you're asking him to be the go-to scorer for a Western Conference playoff team, then yeah he's not a good option. If you're a bottom seven team in the East trying to sell anything of promise to your fans, then you're probably looking at Jalen Green differently. If you're a bottom feeder team that struggles to attract talented free agents and have drafted busts recently, you probably take the proven 23 year old 20 point scorer if a team is just giving him away on a discount.

Well you were right! I’ll eat some crow

[MoreyWins]

Then probably not going to get KD without a good future first. Free and 10 isn’t going to beat. All these are better reported offers.

Vassell + filler + 14
Wiggins + Jovic + filler + 20 + future first
RJ + IQ + filler + 9
Gobert or Randle + DDV + filler + 17

Green appears to have some poor value on the market or else I think this deal is already done.

And I get the natural response of “who cares” but I think that’s shortsighted. That team with KD is a contender now. Even minus Jabari and 10 the Rockets are set up very well long term.

The Rockets are negotiating from a position of leverage. The front office does not seem hesitant to offer the 10th overall pick for KD. Other teams like Minnesota and Miami seem hesitant to complete the trade for whatever reason. Minnesota is probably worried about losing Durant and Gobert for nothing, and Miami is worried about putting too many of their chips in for Kevin Durant. I don't think Toronto is seriously going to offer the 9th pick, it seems silly to make that move in their position. I also don't see the big difference between Green & 10 versus Vassell & 14. Both teams have young SGs that have to get rerouted, and both teams have lottery picks in one of the most interesting middles of the draft in years.

I don't think Houston is guaranteed to win the KD sweepstakes, but right now the best thing to do is wait. Wait for Phoenix to blink before the draft, and if they don't they then they should feel comfortable drafting at #10.

I mean you painted every other option in the worst possible light for the Suns position and the best possible for the Rockets Like I said the leverage is actually getting KD. Green doesn’t have any value in the market and makes more than every player on that list save for Gobert and IQ, both much better players. My point stands, that offer is probably the worst available. Seems like we find out today or tomorrow.

Well....