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I haven't seen this proposed yet-thoughts?

Indy saves money and gets younger, reloading for 2026/27. They might still sneak into the playoffs, but this should help them avoid the tax (depends on Turner's final #)

SA goes for it, while keeping the #2 (which I STILL think they should deal to Philly for the #3/Clip pick and the 2029 Clip/Philly swap, but I like VJ as a prospect more than Harper, especially for the Spurs)

Siakam for Vassell/Sochan/#14/2027 ATL pick Trade is completed once the #14's contract can be traded.

Indy saves money and adds youth. I think this group can still make the playoffs
Nembhard/TJ
Vassell/Sheppard
Nesmith/Mathurin
Obi/Sochan
Turner/Sorber (#14)
Still have Walker/Furphy for deep bench
I'm counting Vassell as a neutral/positive player here
MAYBE Sochan goes to BRK for the #19, and Indy saves more $

SA challenges in the West with
Fox/Castle
Harper/Castle/KJohnson
Barnes/Champaigne/KJohnson
Siakam/Barnes
Wemby/? (vet signing)
As I mentioned above, if they take VJ instead (and add more future assets), I like it more

do they actually save money if they have to give sochan a new contract?

siakam fetches more than this imo

proposed this morning....

Feels like four quarters (maybe) for a dollar. I'd want a better centerpiece (#2 or Castle)

I would want something like #14, 1 juicy future 1st and one protected future 1st (which would likely convey but a limited ceiling).

I am not going to want Vassell anywhere near this deal. We have an exceptional backcourt with Haliburton/Nembhard. Send us Barnes/Keldon as salary.

Harrison Barnes
Keldon Johnson
#14
2028 1st (Lotto protected)
2030 1st (Best of SAS Swaps)

There is nothing here but a wish and prayer for Indiana. Like I get this board loves draft picks and all but I am not giving Siakim whom is on a contract, an all star player, reigning ECFMVP for this. If you are not ready to compete for a title then Siakim is probably not for you. We just saw limited role players get 4-5 1st and your telling me Siakim who plays both ends of the court is worth this? No thank you and keep it moving.

I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better?
SA could add another future 1st too

pipfan wrote:I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better?
SA could add another future 1st too

Spurs choke with laughter before hanging up. Once again after the Fox trade, after the (non) Durant trade, people still don't get what the Spurs are trying to do. They come out and say it time and again, we won't skip steps, we like what we have, yet people want them to move a boatload of picks and young players for 31 year old players making max money. It's not going to happen.

I like Siakam but he's kinda old for this team and that's a steep price. Maybe if he were Fox's age

wemby wrote:

pipfan wrote:I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better?
SA could add another future 1st too

Spurs choke with laughter before hanging up. Once again after the Fox trade, after the (non) Durant trade, people still don't get what the Spurs are trying to do. They come out and say it time and again, we won't skip steps, we like what we have, yet people want them to move a boatload of picks and young players for 31 year old players making max money. It's not going to happen.

99% of the trades on this forum aren't going to happen

The least we can do is be positive and open-minded about a teams direction

I just don’t get the speculation that Indy would have any interest whatsoever in trading Siakam. He’s arguably their best player and they were just 15 points away from a championship.

This is a weak return for Siakam.

Definitely hope San Antonio takes a very patient approach to team building, maybe wait until Steph retires before getting too serious

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

wemby wrote:

pipfan wrote:I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better?
SA could add another future 1st too

Spurs choke with laughter before hanging up. Once again after the Fox trade, after the (non) Durant trade, people still don't get what the Spurs are trying to do. They come out and say it time and again, we won't skip steps, we like what we have, yet people want them to move a boatload of picks and young players for 31 year old players making max money. It's not going to happen.

99% of the trades on this forum aren't going to happen

The least we can do is be positive and open-minded about a teams direction

Of course most trades aren't going to happen, but at least one should aim at those that have a non zero chance... Harper + Castle multiple firsts for Brown, or Castle plus for Durant, or Vassell + Sochan + 3 firsts for 31 year old, max Siakam, those don't have a snowball's chance in hell. Plenty of proposals are somewhat feasible at least, this isn't one of them.

wemby wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

wemby wrote:Spurs choke with laughter before hanging up. Once again after the Fox trade, after the (non) Durant trade, people still don't get what the Spurs are trying to do. They come out and say it time and again, we won't skip steps, we like what we have, yet people want them to move a boatload of picks and young players for 31 year old players making max money. It's not going to happen.

99% of the trades on this forum aren't going to happen

The least we can do is be positive and open-minded about a teams direction

Of course most trades aren't going to happen, but at least one should aim at those that have a non zero chance... Harper + Castle multiple firsts for Brown, or Castle plus for Durant, or Vassell + Sochan + 3 firsts for 31 year old, max Siakam, those don't have a snowball's chance in hell. Plenty of proposals are somewhat feasible at least, this isn't one of them.

I don't see the proposal for Siakam in this thread

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

wemby wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
99% of the trades on this forum aren't going to happen

The least we can do is be positive and open-minded about a teams direction

Of course most trades aren't going to happen, but at least one should aim at those that have a non zero chance... Harper + Castle multiple firsts for Brown, or Castle plus for Durant, or Vassell + Sochan + 3 firsts for 31 year old, max Siakam, those don't have a snowball's chance in hell. Plenty of proposals are somewhat feasible at least, this isn't one of them.

I don't see the proposal for Siakam in this thread

"Siakam for Vassell/Sochan/#14/2027 ATL pick Trade is completed once the #14's contract can be traded."
"I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better? SA could add another future 1st too"

BTW, weren't you using the foe function? Please do,

wemby wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

wemby wrote:Of course most trades aren't going to happen, but at least one should aim at those that have a non zero chance... Harper + Castle multiple firsts for Brown, or Castle plus for Durant, or Vassell + Sochan + 3 firsts for 31 year old, max Siakam, those don't have a snowball's chance in hell. Plenty of proposals are somewhat feasible at least, this isn't one of them.

I don't see the proposal for Siakam in this thread

"Siakam for Vassell/Sochan/#14/2027 ATL pick Trade is completed once the #14's contract can be traded."
"I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better? SA could add another future 1st too"

BTW, weren't you using the foe function? Please do,

You said 3 1sts, this is two: #14 and 2027 ATL 1st

I'm too old and optimistic about people to hold grudges and life is too good to be pessimistic about how someone portrays themselves on the internet.

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

wemby wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
I don't see the proposal for Siakam in this thread

"Siakam for Vassell/Sochan/#14/2027 ATL pick Trade is completed once the #14's contract can be traded."
"I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better? SA could add another future 1st too"

BTW, weren't you using the foe function? Please do,

You said 3 1sts, this is two: #14 and 2027 ATL 1st

Dude, literally the guy says in a follow up "SA could add another future 1st too". Anyway, 2 or 3 firsts, Vassell or Johnson, the point remains. I have no interest in going back and forth with you on this or anything really, you won't add me to ignore, I'll add you. Bye.

wemby wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

wemby wrote:"Siakam for Vassell/Sochan/#14/2027 ATL pick Trade is completed once the #14's contract can be traded."
"I'm counting Vassell as a slightly positive player-if I'm wrong, Barnes/Johnson better? SA could add another future 1st too"

BTW, weren't you using the foe function? Please do,

You said 3 1sts, this is two: #14 and 2027 ATL 1st

Dude, literally the guy says in a follow up "SA could add another future 1st too". Anyway, 2 or 3 firsts, Vassell or Johnson, the point remains. I have no interest in going back and forth with you on this or anything really, you won't add me to ignore, I'll add you. Bye.

My bad! I was just reading the main meat and potatoes of the post and missed the dessert.

I like your optimism on Vassell/Sochan. I hope they make improvements beyond what they have showed so far, and in Sochan's situation he can always fall back on his defensive skill-set to have a long career in the NBA ala Jared Vanderbilt.

I hope for Wemby's sake the Vassell/Fox contracts don't hinder the Spurs ability to acquire talent.

Laimbeer wrote:Feels like four quarters (maybe) for a dollar. I'd want a better centerpiece (#2 or Castle)

That's obviously absurd though.