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Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:17 pm
by SNPA
Sabonis for 7/Jones/Kelly/Alverado/small salary
Sac sees their future at 7.
Pels see an immediate improvement.
Two new GMs go in different directions.
*Sac holds out for Murphy till last minute.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:22 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:24 pm
by SNPA
ReggiesKnicks wrote:I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Money doesn’t work otherwise. They just got Bey, and can’t aggregate Poole.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:26 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
SNPA wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Money doesn’t work otherwise. They just got Bey, and can’t aggregate Poole.
Is the deal officially done during the 2024-2025 season or will the deal of Poole/McCollum be official in the 2025-2026 season?
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:29 pm
by SNPA
ReggiesKnicks wrote:SNPA wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Money doesn’t work otherwise. They just got Bey, and can’t aggregate Poole.
Is the deal officially done during the 2024-2025 season or will the deal of Poole/McCollum be official in the 2025-2026 season?
I think it’s not done but assuming it goes through this is the only route that doesn’t include Murphy.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:30 pm
by Godaddycurse
SNPA wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Money doesn’t work otherwise. They just got Bey, and can’t aggregate Poole.
zion matches sabonis...
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:32 pm
by SNPA
Godaddycurse wrote:SNPA wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Money doesn’t work otherwise. They just got Bey, and can’t aggregate Poole.
zion matches sabonis...
Assuming Dumars wants to pair them with Murphy.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:37 pm
by OGSactownballer
This is at least two firsts from Pels light.
The players that already exist under contract do not replace the pick value needed in return for an established All NBA caliber player.
Lesser players have already been moved this off season for decent return player value and much more draft capital. This is an insane short sell in Domas.
Hard no to this.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:02 pm
by jbk1234
Godaddycurse wrote:SNPA wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:I think the idea is to pair Sabonis with wings like Trey and Jones, not trade Jones for Sabonis.
Money doesn’t work otherwise. They just got Bey, and can’t aggregate Poole.
zion matches sabonis...
I think Zion and 7 for Sabonis works in a vacuum, but it's hard to pull the trigger with that lawsuit hanging out there.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:25 pm
by BoogieTime
kings unlikely rebuilding like this and not enough value
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:28 pm
by SNPA
BoogieTime wrote:kings are not rebuilding like this and not enough value
Peak smokescreen season but there are rumors Sac is open to talking Sabonis, and rumors Dumars wants to shake things up.
I could see Sac ask for another first.
It mostly depends on if Perry sees his future at 7. It doesn’t take much squinting to see a future star in Essengue for example.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:12 pm
by longfellow44
This is trash for the kings. Sabonis is worth a lot more than that.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:42 pm
by babyjax13
I think 7 and Jones is a very good offer for Sabonis ...
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:41 pm
by longfellow44
babyjax13 wrote:I think 7 and Jones is a very good offer for Sabonis ...
would expect a better return than durant. Unlike Durant sabonis has several more years under contract which makes him more valuable. I would expect at least 1 to 2 more picks. Jones isn't a prize he is a good role player and should be valued as such
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:46 pm
by LightTheBeam
I thought Kelly got traded to Washington? Doesnt this have to be Dejounte anyways?
I'd do it either way. Herb + 7 and Kings should probably route Herb somewhere else for a pick.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:53 pm
by babyjax13
longfellow44 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:I think 7 and Jones is a very good offer for Sabonis ...
would expect a better return than durant. Unlike Durant sabonis has several more years under contract which makes him more valuable. I would expect at least 1 to 2 more picks. Jones isn't a prize he is a good role player and should be valued as such
This is much better than the Durant return.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:10 pm
by longfellow44
babyjax13 wrote:longfellow44 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:I think 7 and Jones is a very good offer for Sabonis ...
would expect a better return than durant. Unlike Durant sabonis has several more years under contract which makes him more valuable. I would expect at least 1 to 2 more picks. Jones isn't a prize he is a good role player and should be valued as such
This is much better than the Durant return.
No it isn't. The 10th pick has only slightly less value than the 7th in this draft. I would say brooks has more value than everything else in the trade except herb, and I think a combination of 5 second round picks and green is more value than herb even with that contract.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:13 pm
by babyjax13
longfellow44 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:longfellow44 wrote:would expect a better return than durant. Unlike Durant sabonis has several more years under contract which makes him more valuable. I would expect at least 1 to 2 more picks. Jones isn't a prize he is a good role player and should be valued as such
This is much better than the Durant return.
No it isn't. The 10th pick has only slightly less value than the 7th in this draft. I would say brooks has more value than everything else in the trade except herb, and I think a combination of 5 second round picks and green is more value than herb even with that contract.
Jones is a much better player than Brooks.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:49 am
by longfellow44
babyjax13 wrote:longfellow44 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:This is much better than the Durant return.
No it isn't. The 10th pick has only slightly less value than the 7th in this draft. I would say brooks has more value than everything else in the trade except herb, and I think a combination of 5 second round picks and green is more value than herb even with that contract.
Jones is a much better player than Brooks.
Yes but green is better than Jones.
Re: Pels/Sac
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:52 am
by babyjax13
longfellow44 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:longfellow44 wrote:No it isn't. The 10th pick has only slightly less value than the 7th in this draft. I would say brooks has more value than everything else in the trade except herb, and I think a combination of 5 second round picks and green is more value than herb even with that contract.
Jones is a much better player than Brooks.
Yes but green is better than Jones.
Green is much worse than Jones. Green is the worst player in that entire deal. He was voted one of the 10 worst contracts in the league by the board and he is an inefficient chucker. I'd still like a team to gamble on developing him, but it is far from a sure thing. I think Herb is worth more than the entire package Phoenix received for Durant.