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Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:30 am
by YayBasketball
So Pels/Dumars/Weaver baffled us all with trading out of next year's draft. Let's gather some ideas on their next trade options to round out their roster for a playoff-pushing / clearly not-tanking roster.

Needs: starting Center upgrade and/or upgrade at wing.

Probably won't be traded:
-Zion (low value and Dumars publicly said they're keeping him)
-Murray (low value and Dumars said today that Murray is 'all in on this team)
-Poole
-Trey Murphy (more valuable to winning on this roster than anyone they could realistically trade him for)

So that leaves these guys as the main moveable players for upgrades:

Alvarado 4.5m: just drafted Fears as small guard who should take the backup PG minutes

Hawkins 4.7m: probably not much value, but his salary could be used to match something, sliver of 'recent lotto pick' allure

Missi: only available if they can get a real starting Center level upgrade. As of now he's the starter, but is he starting level on real team?

*Herb: only available for a big upgrade at Center or better wing. Unlikely, especially now as the only plus defender on the roster.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:39 am
by German Athens
Brook Lopez in a sign and trade?

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:47 pm
by deviljets7
Just spit-balling here, couldn't be made until August 24...

Mitchell Robinson and Tyler Kolek for Bey and Alvarado.

Pelicans roll the dice on a potential high-level defensive center. Worst case scenario, Bey and Alvarado are converted to a decent sized expiring for a (illadvised?) deadline move.

Rather than pray for Robinson's health, the Knicks cash him into two bench pieces. With the inclusion of Kolek, NY saves $4.5 million, which should allow them to use the Tax Payer MLE on the best replacement big they can get while staying under the second apron.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:06 pm
by jayjaysee
Alvarado would be nice in Dallas to join the committee they are looking like building..

But it’s tough to make a fair offer. Not worth Gafford. And Dallas’ seconds are probably not enough.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:53 pm
by Streakers33
Rudy to the Poole party!!


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Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:08 pm
by Djh7475
As both a Celtics and Pelicans fan, I wish they had taken Malauch and then found a workable deal with the Celtics for Missi as his low cost and age would’ve fit well in Boston.

I’m not a fan of Queen at all, so trading their Pacers 2026 first along with an unprotected pick from us or the Bucks next year was infuriating. Hell, I’m not a fan of Fears either especially since I think he’s repetitive on a roster with Murray/Poole, but I’m used to being disappointed in Pelicans management.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:12 pm
by toooskies
Allen and Okoro for Herb, Alvarado, Missi, Hawkins. (Maybe not Hawkins, he's a salary/value balance.)

NOP upgrades a lot at C with a defensive anchor with efficient offense and downgrades their wing defense a bit. Okoro mitigates the defensive loss on the wing a bit.

Cleveland gets to shift Mobley to C and gets another starting-caliber big wing. Missi returns a backup C that doesn't have to play all the time and Alvarado covers some minutes at PG while Garland recovers from offseason surgery. Alvarado and Hawkins are nice digestible pieces to move at the trade deadline for tax/2nd apron avoidance.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:07 pm
by jayjaysee
So.. Naji for Alvarado and 40? Feels close? Or no 2nd back to Dallas?

Saving the 5 million dollars doesn’t really do anything for Dallas, but I guess it’s nice? Saving that money would make it easier to try to duck tax midseason when AD gets hurt and/or traded?

If Powell, Prosper and two distant seconds gets Alvarado, I take my first offer back..

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:01 pm
by Skybox
What's the complaint with Missi as a starter? I haven't seen him, just want the archetype in ORL.

I would think Queen could play the 4 next to him and let Missi just do 100% dirty work (that Queen can't)

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:06 pm
by hugepatsfan
If I was a Pelicans fan I'd be rooting for Dumars to stop making trades lol

Give him a company phone but sneakily block all the other GMs numbers so he can't lose anymore trades. Well, actually... you can let calls from Nico through. No one else though.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:16 pm
by BigGargamel
Missi looked like a decent future starting center. So you trade a 2026 lottery pick to take a fat undersized replacement?

I'm sorry Pelicans fans.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:48 pm
by Nyce_1
Could Orlando offer:

Goga & Jett for Missi & Alverado?

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:52 pm
by chrbal
Alvarado 4.5m: just drafted Fears as small guard who should take the backup PG minutes

Detroit- if Schroeder is gone, I’d like to see the Pistons take advantage of Dumars/Weaver and make an offer for him as a spark plug guard off the bench on a cheaper two year contract

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:03 am
by MasterIchiro
How about Missi + draft capital for Claxton?

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:22 am
by Tripod
Missi for Dick

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:32 am
by nolaPELSfan
Probably more of a deadline deal, but:

Missi + Dejounte
for
Gobert
?

Some Jose + Hawkins trades i posted in another thread but meant to post here:

for Goga

for Jalen Smith + '28 CHI 2nd

for Powell + Prosper + Brandon Williams
?

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:49 am
by YayBasketball
chrbal wrote:Alvarado 4.5m: just drafted Fears as small guard who should take the backup PG minutes

Detroit- if Schroeder is gone, I’d like to see the Pistons take advantage of Dumars/Weaver and make an offer for him as a spark plug guard off the bench on a cheaper two year contract

An interesting one I saw:
Alvarado + Hawins + Matkovic
for Stewart

I'm sure Pistons fans will balk since they see Stewart as so valuable. But Langdon can get 3 guys he drafted and oversaw development of, Weaver gets his drafted guy.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:52 am
by YayBasketball
I like the idea of J. Allen, but we could argue Herb is just as important to defense as Allen for this new Pels roster.

Who knows what actual moves are next, but they do have the full MLE to add a Center: Kornet, Lopez, Capela, etc. R. Williams makes sense in a swap for Hawkins.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:29 am
by hoopsfan777
Probably keep the team as is and see what we have when Murray returns. Maybe we can sign Capela.

Re: Offers for: Alvarado, Hawkins, Missi

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:10 am
by tester551
Portland could use Hawkins.

Hawkins for Kris Murray?