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Weird to do this immediately after the draft

Good for them, he's been making extremely weird moves since the title

gswhoops wrote:Weird to do this immediately after the draft

Maybe they just couldnt agree about who to pick

I didn’t understand the direction of that team at all the last few years.

yep this was overdue. He had a good long run, but hadn't been on his game for years now. This is great news for the Raptors.

Best thing that has happened to Toronto in years. Masai was becoming the next Joe Dumars. He looked increasingly to be a prisoner of his past mistakes. That's the most dangerous time to be a GM. Toronto should have done it a year ago.

Job performance matters (well except in Dallas thus far), so this was sadly deserved. Raptors are better today without him in control

Masai failed to deliver Giannis like he promised! Sad!!!

One_and_Done wrote:Best thing that has happened to Toronto in years. Masai was becoming the next Joe Dumars. He looked increasingly to be a prisoner of his past mistakes. That's the most dangerous time to be a GM. Toronto should have done it a year ago.

People ignore the fact that the last few years of Dumars tenure he was a prisioner of the situation, because Mr Davidson died, so he had to shed salary because the franchise was being sold so he couldn't really make moves.

But before that he wasn't great, and once Gores took over he was bad. So the Masai comparisson is not bad, Toronto have been lost for a while just like Detroit was, so good that they decided to do that sooner rather than later.

Long over due. The Raptors decision making hasn't been great lately. Didn't get enough value OG Anunoby or Pascal Siakam. Confusing choices like giving up a 1st round for Jakob Poeltl, despite of not being in now mode. Questionable draft selections. Overpaying for certain players. Masai had a great run, but time has passed him by.

Im pretty bummed about this. Track record far from good last few years but wanted him to have a chance to right the ship. Our franchise was crap before him and grass isnt always greener... Sigh

Long overdue, directionless philosophy that kept rolling a capped out non competetive teams

Godaddycurse wrote:Im pretty bummed about this. Track record far from good last few years but wanted him to have a chance to right the ship. Our franchise was crap before him and grass isnt always greener... Sigh

He has been mediocre at best since 2020. That's 5 years of mediocrity. Some decisions are clearly worse than mediocre, and they have done a poor job of building an actual team since 2019.

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Im pretty bummed about this. Track record far from good last few years but wanted him to have a chance to right the ship. Our franchise was crap before him and grass isnt always greener... Sigh

He has been mediocre at best since 2020. That's 5 years of mediocrity. Some decisions are clearly worse than mediocre, and they have done a poor job of building an actual team since 2019.

I would still take what we had in 2021 onwards over the decades of futility prior.

Godaddycurse wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Im pretty bummed about this. Track record far from good last few years but wanted him to have a chance to right the ship. Our franchise was crap before him and grass isnt always greener... Sigh

He has been mediocre at best since 2020. That's 5 years of mediocrity. Some decisions are clearly worse than mediocre, and they have done a poor job of building an actual team since 2019.

I would still take what we had in 2021 onwards over the decades of futility prior.

You should be comparing 2021 onward to all the possibilities of 2021 onward rather than the past.

GM's are much better now than they were in the 2000s. That's just a fact. Teams are smarter and better.

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
He has been mediocre at best since 2020. That's 5 years of mediocrity. Some decisions are clearly worse than mediocre, and they have done a poor job of building an actual team since 2019.

I would still take what we had in 2021 onwards over the decades of futility prior.

You should be comparing 2021 onward to all the possibilities of 2021 onward rather than the past.

GM's are much better now than they were in the 2000s. That's just a fact. Teams are smarter and better.

Thats true, assuming you dont have a cheap/meddling owner who hires a yes man. I dont have faith in ed rogers

Overall terrific tenure but the last 5 years probably had him in the Dumars/Nico tier. Maybe he was gonna turn it around but felt like he was destroying his legacy more and more each move.

Godaddycurse wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:
I would still take what we had in 2021 onwards over the decades of futility prior.

You should be comparing 2021 onward to all the possibilities of 2021 onward rather than the past.

GM's are much better now than they were in the 2000s. That's just a fact. Teams are smarter and better.

Thats true, assuming you dont have a cheap/meddling owner who hires a yes man. I dont have faith in ed rogers

Sounds like pessimism

The best case is that Toronto is a 50-win team this year, and you get to tell everyone, "I told you so!"

We are kinda screwed/iced out from Free Agency for a while now which messes with rounding out the team. Still have a gaping hole at C. Such **** timing