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				Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:05 pm
				by Malapropism
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				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:07 pm
				by Devilanche
				I didn’t see that coming. Thought bulls were going stay with ball .
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:07 pm
				by K_chile22
				Extending Lonzo ball so you can trade him for a bad contract. Bulls FO minds operate on a plane of existence I will never understand
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:08 pm
				by Richard4444
				Ty Jerome must be leaving the Cavs.
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:11 pm
				by MadNESS
				Garland trade incoming
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:11 pm
				by DowJones
				Richard4444 wrote:Ty Jerome must be leaving the Cavs.
I think this is a trade the Cavs do regardless of what Jerome does.
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:13 pm
				by Scoot McGroot
				DowJones wrote:Richard4444 wrote:Ty Jerome must be leaving the Cavs.
I think this is a trade the Cavs do regardless of what Jerome does.
 
I think it definitely means at least one of Jerome or Merrill are gone. Maybe both.
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:14 pm
				by Dadouv47
				Doesn't impact the Garland/Ty Jerome situation or I'm missing something. 
I get the fit but so many question marks about Lonzo (health of course is the biggest one) that I don't know if I like it for the Cavs.
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:15 pm
				by ReggiesKnicks
				MadNESS wrote:Garland trade incoming
Trading for a 3rd string PG is a sign of a Garland trade? 
I'm in!
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:15 pm
				by ReggiesKnicks
				K_chile22 wrote:Extending Lonzo ball so you can trade him for a bad contract. Bulls FO minds operate on a plane of existence I will never understand
Okoro is healthier and fits better on the Bulls.
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:15 pm
				by BK_2020
				This is a fantastic trade for the Cavs. They get one of the best guard defenders and passers in the league to cover up for Mitchell's great shortcomings in those areas AND they get rid of Okoro.
What were the Bulls thinking?
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:16 pm
				by Malapropism
				K_chile22 wrote:Extending Lonzo ball so you can trade him for a bad contract. Bulls FO minds operate on a plane of existence I will never understand
They're the same contract. 10-11 million for the next two years. I'd rather take a flier on the younger player if I'm Chicago.
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:16 pm
				by ReggiesKnicks
				Malapropism wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Extending Lonzo ball so you can trade him for a bad contract. Bulls FO minds operate on a plane of existence I will never understand
They're the same contract. 10-11 million for the next two years. I'd rather take a flier on the younger player if I'm Chicago.
 
And the player who fits better and is healthy
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:17 pm
				by eminence
				I like Lonzo a lot when he's healthy, but that's a risky bet. I believe it's a team option for his last season right? So it could just be a contract improvement move.
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:17 pm
				by BK_2020
				Malapropism wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Extending Lonzo ball so you can trade him for a bad contract. Bulls FO minds operate on a plane of existence I will never understand
They're the same contract. 10-11 million for the next two years. I'd rather take a flier on the younger player if I'm Chicago.
 
There's better chance of Lonzo Ball becoming Cal Ripken, Jr. than Okoro becoming good.
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:17 pm
				by Godaddycurse
				bulls can never have enough SG's
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:19 pm
				by jayjaysee
				Think it’s a pretty decent trade for both sides. Would think it impacts one of Cleveland’s guards..
But it’s a great buy low for Cleveland imo. It’s a perfect fit if he can get/stay right in a lower minute regular season role
			 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:19 pm
				by DowJones
				Scoot McGroot wrote:DowJones wrote:Richard4444 wrote:Ty Jerome must be leaving the Cavs.
I think this is a trade the Cavs do regardless of what Jerome does.
 
I think it definitely means at least one of Jerome or Merrill are gone. Maybe both.
 
That was always the case. I think Merrill is gone. The Cavs targeted Proctor in the 2nd round to play immediately. I actually think retaining Jerome is more likely after this deal.
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:19 pm
				by K_chile22
				Malapropism wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Extending Lonzo ball so you can trade him for a bad contract. Bulls FO minds operate on a plane of existence I will never understand
They're the same contract. 10-11 million for the next two years. I'd rather take a flier on the younger player if I'm Chicago.
 
They could have just not extended him and traded him for positive value at the dealine which he allegedly had
It's also not the same deal, Lonzo has a TO
 
			
					
				Re: Shams: Okoro for Ball
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:24 pm
				by DowJones
				I believe Cleveland's ownership saved around $4–6 million in real dollars with this trade since Okoro makes $1 million more than Ball. Okoro is also fully guaranteed at $11.8 million in 2026, while Ball is set to make $10 million next year on a team option.