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bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Strus
Portland: Timelord
Cavs get big man depth or can stretch Timelord
Portland gets a SG. Only have Sharpe but Strus gives them a guard who can play off the ball.
bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Strus
Portland: Timelord
Cavs get big man depth or can stretch Timelord
Portland gets a SG. Only have Sharpe but Strus gives them a guard who can play off the ball.
jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Strus
Portland: Timelord
Cavs get big man depth or can stretch Timelord
Portland gets a SG. Only have Sharpe but Strus gives them a guard who can play off the ball.
Why would we trade for a player we'd have to stretch as a second apron team?
toooskies wrote:If Cleveland should have learned anything after failing in the postseason four years in a row, it’s that injuries matter.
So obviously, add Ball and Timelord to the roster and get more fragile?
bgrep14 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Strus
Portland: Timelord
Cavs get big man depth or can stretch Timelord
Portland gets a SG. Only have Sharpe but Strus gives them a guard who can play off the ball.
Why would we trade for a player we'd have to stretch as a second apron team?
The stretch provision allow the cavs to spread Timelords pay over 5 years so it’d be a 2.65 million per year against the cap. Rather than strus at 15m+ and get the Cavs within almost a Dean wade dump of getting under the second Apron. Pretty sure being a second apron team is exactly why they’d make a trade to stretch someone.
jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
Why would we trade for a player we'd have to stretch as a second apron team?
The stretch provision allow the cavs to spread Timelords pay over 5 years so it’d be a 2.65 million per year against the cap. Rather than strus at 15m+ and get the Cavs within almost a Dean wade dump of getting under the second Apron. Pretty sure being a second apron team is exactly why they’d make a trade to stretch someone.
If the Cavs were that concerned with getting under the second apron, they wouldn't have extended Merrill. They would've found a third team to take Ball (or stretched-waived him). They wouldn't have drafted a player at 49 who they had to give an NBA contract to. It dies not appear to be a priority this summer.
tidho wrote:Is there a reason CLE would have to stretch him?
I don't think the value is quite there straight up. Would be better off keeping Stus.
bgrep14 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:
The stretch provision allow the cavs to spread Timelords pay over 5 years so it’d be a 2.65 million per year against the cap. Rather than strus at 15m+ and get the Cavs within almost a Dean wade dump of getting under the second Apron. Pretty sure being a second apron team is exactly why they’d make a trade to stretch someone.
If the Cavs were that concerned with getting under the second apron, they wouldn't have extended Merrill. They would've found a third team to take Ball (or stretched-waived him). They wouldn't have drafted a player at 49 who they had to give an NBA contract to. It dies not appear to be a priority this summer.
Or they’re planning to trade Garland for a player/picks and space…
bgrep14 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:
The stretch provision allow the cavs to spread Timelords pay over 5 years so it’d be a 2.65 million per year against the cap. Rather than strus at 15m+ and get the Cavs within almost a Dean wade dump of getting under the second Apron. Pretty sure being a second apron team is exactly why they’d make a trade to stretch someone.
If the Cavs were that concerned with getting under the second apron, they wouldn't have extended Merrill. They would've found a third team to take Ball (or stretched-waived him). They wouldn't have drafted a player at 49 who they had to give an NBA contract to. It dies not appear to be a priority this summer.
Or they’re planning to trade Garland for a player/picks and space…
mcfly1204 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
If the Cavs were that concerned with getting under the second apron, they wouldn't have extended Merrill. They would've found a third team to take Ball (or stretched-waived him). They wouldn't have drafted a player at 49 who they had to give an NBA contract to. It dies not appear to be a priority this summer.
Or they’re planning to trade Garland for a player/picks and space…
Contenders don't move starters for cap space, let alone multiple starters with little to no on court production in return. Maybe take a break with the Cavalier trade proposals?
bgrep14 wrote:. Maybe take a break from being a douche, .
bgrep14 wrote:mcfly1204 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:
Or they’re planning to trade Garland for a player/picks and space…
Contenders don't move starters for cap space, let alone multiple starters with little to no on court production in return. Maybe take a break with the Cavalier trade proposals?
The 2nd Apron has only been in effect since 2024-2025 so there’s not really much depth of data to make an ignorant comment. Prior to that Heat and GSW built dynasty’s dumping starters to sign stars or trade. Even the Cavs dumped half their team to get LeBron back. You may have watched KD and LeBron play a few times. Hell, Denver literally just traded Porter and a first just to cut salary are they not trying to compete with Jokic?
The only way to aggregate is to get under the second apron and I guarantee you if they run the same team back they don’t make it out of the east. They can go out of the Apron and go back in to restructure the team to avoid another 2nd round exit. Maybe take a break from being a douche, it’s only a trade board.