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GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:36 pm
by Wisedude
the principal players in general:

GS receives - Max Strus (2 yrs left on contract as contracts of Curry, Green and Butler)
CLE receives - Zach Collins
CHI receives - J. Kuminga (contract starting in the $17m -18m range - alot more than the $7.9m current QO)

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:39 pm
by Godaddycurse
cleveland cant take back mroe salary than outgoing

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:43 pm
by jbk1234
Also, Strus gives good minutes in the playoffs. The Cavs aren't going to dump him.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:44 pm
by Wisedude
Strus to Chicago for Collins works in the ESPN Trade machine but maybe it isn't perfect according to the CBA.
Then re-route Strus to GS for Kuminga.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:56 pm
by jbk1234
I guess I keep getting stuck on why the Cavs want to trade Strus for Kuminga, assuming matching salaries, which seems unrealistic.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 9:13 pm
by xdrta+
Wisedude wrote:the principal players in general:

GS receives - Max Strus (2 yrs left on contract as contracts of Curry, Green and Butler)
CLE receives - Zach Collins
CHI receives - J. Kuminga (contract starting in the $17m -18m range - alot more than the $7.9m current QO)


If Kuminga would sign for 17-18, the Warriors would just sign him and look to trade him in December when his full salary counts. And taking back more salary than they send out caps them at the 1st Apron, an impossible situation for them.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 9:45 pm
by bgrep14
I’d take Strus over Collins. I’d rather just cut out Chicago and Cavs keep Kuminga.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 9:46 pm
by Godaddycurse
bgrep14 wrote:I’d take Strus over Collins. I’d rather just cut out Chicago and Cavs keep Kuminga.


Then you need to get under first apron somehow

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:27 pm
by facothomas22
Not a legal trade. The Cavaliers are not allowed to take back more salary than they're sending out.Even if it was legal, the Cavaliers need some sort of compensation coming back.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:19 pm
by bgrep14
Godaddycurse wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:I’d take Strus over Collins. I’d rather just cut out Chicago and Cavs keep Kuminga.


Then you need to get under first apron somehow


Regardless, Collins makes more than Strus idk why the Cavs would entertain this.

Re: GS - CHI - CLE proposed trade involving Kuminga

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:37 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
Wisedude wrote:the principal players in general:

GS receives - Max Strus (2 yrs left on contract as contracts of Curry, Green and Butler)
CLE receives - Zach Collins
CHI receives - J. Kuminga (contract starting in the $17m -18m range - alot more than the $7.9m current QO)


OP, board rules require each trade idea include reasons each team would do that trade and that the idea is CBA legal.

As was pointed out, the Cavs are over the first apron and therefore are limited to bringing back the same amount or less than they send out in salary. This trade has the Cavs bringing back more than they send out.