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Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:05 pm
by shagadelic45
UTAH TRADES: Collins
LAL TRADES: Kleber, Rui, Knecht
Jazz pick up Knecht for next to nothing....
Lakers get a PF upgrade
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:11 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
Yeah I think this trade is fine. Finding small value to add to the two fillers and I think there are lots of versions that could work.
But disappointed at the missed opportunity to say “Knecht to nothing”
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:22 pm
by facothomas22
Meh, the Jazz simply pass. Rui is not at all interesting and Dalton Knect likely isn't getting any significant playing time on the Jazz. Maybe this is his value, but if so, may as well keep him.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:26 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
Ah filler here should be Vincent and Kleber
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:12 am
by dcstanley
Virtually no chance the Lakers trade Rui and Knecht for Collins.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 5:34 am
by nzahir
Easy no
Since I dont see us trading our 2031 1st for a short term solution, Knecht is our last trade asset to attatch with Rui (very slight positive value and an expiring)
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 7:09 am
by babyjax13
Kleber, Vincent, and a 2nd or two feels closer.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:33 pm
by Karmaloop
babyjax13 wrote:Kleber, Vincent, and a 2nd or two feels closer.
100%. The difference between Collins and Rui isn't Knecht. It's probably 2 SRPs.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 7:08 pm
by shagadelic45
babyjax13 wrote:Kleber, Vincent, and a 2nd or two feels closer.
like that even better
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 7:10 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
Weird trade. I have Rui as an equal player to Collins making less salary.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 7:59 pm
by SkyHook
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Weird trade. I have Rui as an equal player to Collins making less salary.
Agreed. They're definitely in that same tier.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 8:50 pm
by They_Them_Hatin
babyjax13 wrote:Kleber, Vincent, and a 2nd or two feels closer.
Still seems like something that can actually happen but if it was it would’ve happened (agreed to) by now.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:26 pm
by babyjax13
They_Them_Hatin wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Kleber, Vincent, and a 2nd or two feels closer.
Still seems like something that can actually happen but if it was it would’ve happened (agreed to) by now.
LA is probably looking for guard depth first, IMO. I bet guys like Collins get traded when all the other deals are mostly done (including Horford/Brogdon free agency).
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:45 am
by PistolPeteJR
Idk why the Lakers are trading Rui for Collins. Pointless.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:34 am
by SlimShady83
Probably have to include Lakers SRP in this trade, but I like it. Lakers as of late that I know of, haven't shown interest in Collins, but could be a strategy on their part?.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:35 am
by SlimShady83
PistolPeteJR wrote:Idk why the Lakers are trading Rui for Collins. Pointless.
I like Rui and all, but Collins is more consistent, more athletic and more of a lob threat then what Rui is, better suited for Luka

There's a mixed bag of feelings between fans and wanting Rui over Collins, that's for sure.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:20 pm
by PistolPeteJR
SlimShady83 wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:Idk why the Lakers are trading Rui for Collins. Pointless.
I like Rui and all, but Collins is more consistent, more athletic and more of a lob threat then what Rui is, better suited for Luka

There's a mixed bag of feelings between fans and wanting Rui over Collins, that's for sure.
Just not worth it considering the Lakers being limited in the assets department
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 5:25 am
by kobe_vs_jordan
I can quint my eyes and call collins the better player. But not way he the better expiring contract. Lakers wouldn’t add incentive here.
Think they the same tier of player with different advantages. John higher upside when it come to points. Rui has IQ, less turnover and not fouling advantage. Both meh defenders. Rui slightly less meh on defense.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 5:28 am
by kobe_vs_jordan
Think the idea of collins is great till he on your roster. On paper a stretch big that is also a vertical threat sounds great.
Re: Jazz and Lakers
Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 8:03 pm
by SlimShady83
Y"all telling me this offer is not better then what Utah actually got for Collins?? Kessler and/or Lauri trade next