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Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#1 » by pipfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:04 pm

Assumptions
Bulls want to clear Vuc and get a 1st
Char wants to start winning, and needs a big man
Miami wants to win, and gets a cheap talent upgrade

Miami sends Rozier to Chi
Miami gets MBridges

Chi sends Vuc to Char
Chi gets Rozier and the least favorable 1st of Pho/Wash/Memp/Orl

Char sends Rozier to Miami
Char gets Vuc
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#2 » by Godaddycurse » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:15 pm

pipfan wrote:Assumptions
Bulls want to clear Vuc and get a 1st
Char wants to start winning, and needs a big man
Miami wants to win, and gets a cheap talent upgrade

Miami sends Rozier to Chi
Miami gets MBridges

Chi sends Vuc to Char
Chi gets Rozier and the least favorable 1st of Pho/Wash/Memp/Orl

Char sends Rozier to Miami
Char gets Vuc


Dont think charlotte is interested in trading bridges or a 1st for vuc, let alone both
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#3 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:56 pm

Are they trading wiggins? Because I can't see a scenario where the guy who beat up his sister and law (essentially, not officially) in front of his nephews would be a welcomed addition to the lockerroom.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#4 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:15 pm

Offer for Vuc is Josh Green + Josh Okogie + 2031 Bucks 2nd + 2032 Bucks 2nd.

Bulls get wings to go with Okoro.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#5 » by HornetJail » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:41 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Offer for Vuc is Josh Green + Josh Okogie + 2031 Bucks 2nd + 2032 Bucks 2nd.

Bulls get wings to go with Okoro.

i'd probably say 4 2nds is fair (2 for Vuc, 2 for offloading Green)

Bridges for Vuc just moves our disaster position from C to PF. Salaun would have to start the first month of the season due to a complete lack of other PFs, and that would kill the entire season until Grant gets back.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#6 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:50 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Offer for Vuc is Josh Green + Josh Okogie + 2031 Bucks 2nd + 2032 Bucks 2nd.

Bulls get wings to go with Okoro.

i'd probably say 4 2nds is fair (2 for Vuc, 2 for offloading Green)

Bridges for Vuc just moves our disaster position from C to PF. Salaun would have to start the first month of the season due to a complete lack of other PFs, and that would kill the entire season until Grant gets back.


Yeah, I'd either add 2 more 2nd round picks or just cough up the 1st acquired from Phoenix for helping them out with Nurkic.

It's an overpay for Vuc but Hornets aren't bidding against themselves. Teams are competing for solutions at the center position.

The stuff with Bridges is getting tired on this board.

The fans who want him drop him in deals knowing other fans will jump out to say he's negative value and worthless. By now it's predictable but that won't stop them from shamelessly dropping his name in there.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#7 » by BBallFreak » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:13 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Are they trading wiggins? Because I can't see a scenario where the guy who beat up his sister and law (essentially, not officially) in front of his nephews would be a welcomed addition to the lockerroom.

You said it all for me. DO NOT WANT!
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Post#8 » by ChettheJet » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:03 pm

The only way to get Vucevic to CHA is straight up for Bridges. The Hornets cut off Bridges 2nd year at $22M , get a center for one year pushing back their decision on a permanent solution. Sending the Bulls multiple lower paid players they have no use for is not the CHI path to moving on from Vucevic or SRP's they have historically not cared about
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#9 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:14 pm

ChettheJet wrote:The only way to get Vucevic to CHA is straight up for Bridges. The Hornets cut off Bridges 2nd year at $22M , get a center for one year pushing back their decision on a permanent solution. Sending the Bulls multiple lower paid players they have no use for is not the CHI path to moving on from Vucevic or SRP's they have historically not cared about


We are out on Vuc then.

Would take Z. Collins for Green + Connaughton. Again, include 2nd round picks.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#10 » by pipfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:34 pm

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:Are they trading wiggins? Because I can't see a scenario where the guy who beat up his sister and law (essentially, not officially) in front of his nephews would be a welcomed addition to the lockerroom.

You said it all for me. DO NOT WANT!

I didn't know Wiggins was involved with that stuff-never mind
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#11 » by BBallFreak » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:40 pm

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:Are they trading wiggins? Because I can't see a scenario where the guy who beat up his sister and law (essentially, not officially) in front of his nephews would be a welcomed addition to the lockerroom.

You said it all for me. DO NOT WANT!

I didn't know Wiggins was involved with that stuff-never mind

No, that's Bridges. He's saying that unless Miami suddenly loses Wiggins for nothing, Miami wouldn't be desperate enough to take someone like Bridges.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#12 » by HornetJail » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:42 pm

ChettheJet wrote:The only way to get Vucevic to CHA is straight up for Bridges. The Hornets cut off Bridges 2nd year at $22M , get a center for one year pushing back their decision on a permanent solution. Sending the Bulls multiple lower paid players they have no use for is not the CHI path to moving on from Vucevic or SRP's they have historically not cared about

I could see a scenario where the Hornets go after Kuminga if a Bridges/Vuc trade happened, but it wouldn't happen under my watch, he wants (and appears likely to get) a good $10M more than I'd offer.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#13 » by luciano-davidwesley » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:20 pm

Vuc isn't even a good fit for Charlotte. We need a defensive minded, switchable center that can protect the rim to a decent level to compensate for our guards being poor defensively.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#14 » by Diop » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:43 am

i understand Bridges bad value but I'm not paying a first to get rid of him for an expiring old centre who doesn't play defense.

for all his warts, Bridges plays his ass off and works hard on the court. by all appearances his crappy personal life has not poisoned the locker room.
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#15 » by Rich4114 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:04 pm

Charlotte could offer Josh Green and Nick Smith Jr. + a second or two for Vuc. He's an expiring contract and 34 on a team stuck in no man's land so grabbing a young prospect going into year 3 that's cost controlled is a good return.
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Post#16 » by daoneandonly » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:24 pm

Vuc is not returning an expiring and a 1st, he is what he is
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#17 » by pipfan » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:56 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Vuc is not returning an expiring and a 1st, he is what he is

It's a weak first, and this is Char moving on from Bridges and adding a starting center. Vuc is what he is, but at least he'll play nightly and produce. They also save $ next year

Miami adds talent, and hope their culture can keep Bridges in line. He could be an awesome 6th man for the Heat

Chi is dumping Vuc here, and eating a bad deal
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Re: Miami/Chi/Char 

Post#18 » by BBallFreak » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:09 pm

pipfan wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Vuc is not returning an expiring and a 1st, he is what he is

It's a weak first, and this is Char moving on from Bridges and adding a starting center. Vuc is what he is, but at least he'll play nightly and produce. They also save $ next year

Miami adds talent, and hope their culture can keep Bridges in line. He could be an awesome 6th man for the Heat

Chi is dumping Vuc here, and eating a bad deal

No, let him be awesome somewhere else.

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