MIN Showcase for a PG or Back Up Center?

[shrink]

I’m curious if there are any free agent PGs or C’s that might find MIN appealing? I could see the team finding real minutes for a player at those positions, and Ant and contention keep the player in the public eye. The Wolves may be an option for a player that wants to contend, or bet on themselves this year, to get a healthy new contract next summer elsewhere.

I see rumors that MIN is one of several teams negotiating with Bradley Beal and Chris Paul, but I think both are unlikely? Lillard? Westbrook? Brogdan? Any other names out there that might fit? Ugh .. Ben Simmons? Who else?

[BigGargamel]

Minnesota resigned Reid and drafted Beringer. I think they have the center spot well taken care of.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Minnesota resigned Reid and drafted Beringer. I think they have the center spot well taken care of.

Reid isn't a center though.

[Mamba4Goat]

I don’t think Minnesota is as sexy of a landing spot for a PG. ideally you have Conley and Dillingham getting most minutes with DDV as the filler for the remainder. The likely PG has to probably be okay with getting DNPs and not expect an opportunity until injuries.

[LightTheBeam]

I'm curious about a Schroder for Conley + filler + Minor asset type deal after christmas before the deadline.

Minnesota upgrades the pg spot.
Kings get a little something after the season goes to crap.

[Slim Tubby]

Cole Anthony is a name I mentioned on the Wolves board. I also think CP3 would be a great addition but lots of rumors that he will follow Beal to the Clippers.

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[schaffy]

I'm curious about a Schroder for Conley + filler + Minor asset type deal after christmas before the deadline.

Minnesota upgrades the pg spot.
Kings get a little something after the season goes to crap.

I would have no interest in Schroder. He's a poor outside shooter (even calling him streaky would be generous) who doesn't add much defensively -- I think he'd be a poor fit with how much Ant and Randle would have the ball in their hands. I think it would result in some subtraction by addition.

[BK_2020]

Ben Simmons could work for a lot of teams but would be a very bad fit for Minny.

[wolves_89]

Minnesota resigned Reid and drafted Beringer. I think they have the center spot well taken care of.

Beringer is pretty unlikely to contribute this season and Reid is far better as a PF than a C. There will be a fair number of center minutes available at C for the Wolves over the course of the season.

[shangrila]

Minnesota resigned Reid and drafted Beringer. I think they have the center spot well taken care of.

Beringer is pretty unlikely to contribute this season and Reid is far better as a PF than a C. There will be a fair number of center minutes available at C for the Wolves over the course of the season.

Disagree. Whether you want to argue it's Randle or Reid playing the C spot, those guys are going to get a bunch of minutes in the frontcourt together. And of course Gobert.

If you think Reid could play the 3 consistently (I don't, and it causes other playing time issues) and/or that Gobert will start getting reduced minutes for rest...maybe there's a bit of time. 5-10mpg likely, not enough to be attractive to quality FAs or worth giving up assets in a trade for.

The one deal I could see making a bit of sense, since I believe we still have an exception of a little over 5mil, would be to absorb Nick Richards + a 2nd. He's competent enough to eat the kind of minutes I mentioned above and has no long term commitment.

[winforlose]

Correct me if I am wrong (and I very well might be,) but the Wolves can absorb any PG into the TPE they just got from trading NAW to the Hawks? If so, we could trade a player for more space to get under the 2nd apron. We are not stuck with just free agents, but maybe a team/s who want to make a deal.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Ben Simmons could work for a lot of teams but would be a very bad fit for Minny.

Why?

Simmons/Reid/McDaniels/AnT or DDV/Conley or Dillingham is interesting.

[schaffy]

Ben Simmons could work for a lot of teams but would be a very bad fit for Minny.

Why?

Simmons/Reid/McDaniels/AnT or DDV/Conley or Dillingham is interesting.

Yeah, I agree I wouldn't write it off that quickly. You'd have to be careful with the lineup combinations out there -- very limited Goberet/Simmons overlap if at all possible -- but the Wolves made it work OK with Kyle Anderson who isn't exactly a perimeter threat either.

[wolves_89]

Minnesota resigned Reid and drafted Beringer. I think they have the center spot well taken care of.

Beringer is pretty unlikely to contribute this season and Reid is far better as a PF than a C. There will be a fair number of center minutes available at C for the Wolves over the course of the season.

Disagree. Whether you want to argue it's Randle or Reid playing the C spot, those guys are going to get a bunch of minutes in the frontcourt together. And of course Gobert.

If you think Reid could play the 3 consistently (I don't, and it causes other playing time issues) and/or that Gobert will start getting reduced minutes for rest...maybe there's a bit of time. 5-10mpg likely, not enough to be attractive to quality FAs or worth giving up assets in a trade for.

The one deal I could see making a bit of sense, since I believe we still have an exception of a little over 5mil, would be to absorb Nick Richards + a 2nd. He's competent enough to eat the kind of minutes I mentioned above and has no long term commitment.

Last season the Reid-Gobert 2-man pairing had a defensive rating of 101.6 (with a 11.8 net rating which was second best on the team among 2-man pairings playing over 500 minutes together), while the Randle-Reid pairing had a defensive rating of 112.9 (with a 2.4 net rating which was second worst on the team). A couple of things seem pretty clear, first is that Naz should be playing next to Rudy as much as possible, and second Finch needs to find ways to compensate for Randle-Reid being a poor defensive frontcourt. If we added a solid defensive center, I would bet on that player averaging 12-14 minutes a night over course of the season.

[shrink]

I don’t think Minnesota is as sexy of a landing spot for a PG. ideally you have Conley and Dillingham getting most minutes with DDV as the filler for the remainder. The likely PG has to probably be okay with getting DNPs and not expect an opportunity until injuries.

If Conley stays healthy, Dillingham becomes rotation-worthy, and Ant continues to improve his play-making, then MIN might not need a PG. That might be the Wolves’ plan, but it seem a little like wishful thinking to me, for a team that wants to contend.

Mike Conley is not as decrepit as many make it seem, but he is starting to get hunted defensively, and his offensive contribution may not make it worthwhile. I could see a starting PG come to the team.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Some targets around the league I like, varying degrees of possible with combo of Conley, DDV, Terrance Shannon, 28 or 32 swaps.

Coby White
Davion Mitchell
Schroder
Lonzo
Sexton

Marcus Smart from five years ago


I have Minny right at 200m with two roster spots to fill. Is that right?

[schaffy]

Beringer is pretty unlikely to contribute this season and Reid is far better as a PF than a C. There will be a fair number of center minutes available at C for the Wolves over the course of the season.

Disagree. Whether you want to argue it's Randle or Reid playing the C spot, those guys are going to get a bunch of minutes in the frontcourt together. And of course Gobert.

If you think Reid could play the 3 consistently (I don't, and it causes other playing time issues) and/or that Gobert will start getting reduced minutes for rest...maybe there's a bit of time. 5-10mpg likely, not enough to be attractive to quality FAs or worth giving up assets in a trade for.

The one deal I could see making a bit of sense, since I believe we still have an exception of a little over 5mil, would be to absorb Nick Richards + a 2nd. He's competent enough to eat the kind of minutes I mentioned above and has no long term commitment.

Last season the Reid-Gobert 2-man pairing had a defensive rating of 101.6 (with a 11.8 net rating which was second best on the team among 2-man pairings playing over 500 minutes together), while the Randle-Reid pairing had a defensive rating of 112.9 (with a 2.4 net rating which was second worst on the team). A couple of things seem pretty clear, first is that Naz should be playing next to Rudy as much as possible, and second Finch needs to find ways to compensate for Randle-Reid being a poor defensive frontcourt. If we added a solid defensive center, I would bet on that player averaging 12-14 minutes a night over course of the season.

How are you finding those minutes? Last year those 3 bigs together averaged 93 mpg. Assuming health, that's 3 of 96 mins at the PF/C open. Dropping Gobert and Randle each to 30 only frees up 5-6 mins. I guess you could drop Rudys minutes more to keep him a bit more fresh for the playoffs. But taking him off the floor is making the defense worse, so im not sure that's something the coaching staff will want to do much of. Its hard to say there are even 10 mpg for a backup C because Naz is going to get minutes alongside Randle. Those 2 arent just a 24 mpg each platoon. They will need to play together and take minutes from the C spot.

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[BigGargamel]

Minnesota resigned Reid and drafted Beringer. I think they have the center spot well taken care of.

Beringer is pretty unlikely to contribute this season and Reid is far better as a PF than a C. There will be a fair number of center minutes available at C for the Wolves over the course of the season.

Disagree. Whether you want to argue it's Randle or Reid playing the C spot, those guys are going to get a bunch of minutes in the frontcourt together. And of course Gobert.

If you think Reid could play the 3 consistently (I don't, and it causes other playing time issues) and/or that Gobert will start getting reduced minutes for rest...maybe there's a bit of time. 5-10mpg likely, not enough to be attractive to quality FAs or worth giving up assets in a trade for.

The one deal I could see making a bit of sense, since I believe we still have an exception of a little over 5mil, would be to absorb Nick Richards + a 2nd. He's competent enough to eat the kind of minutes I mentioned above and has no long term commitment.

I'm not a Minnesota fan but this was my thought process as well. Reid is going to be a "backup" in name only, but you aren't paying him that money to not play 30+ minutes a game. I assume he'll soak up all remaining PF and C minutes.

[shangrila]

Beringer is pretty unlikely to contribute this season and Reid is far better as a PF than a C. There will be a fair number of center minutes available at C for the Wolves over the course of the season.

Disagree. Whether you want to argue it's Randle or Reid playing the C spot, those guys are going to get a bunch of minutes in the frontcourt together. And of course Gobert.

If you think Reid could play the 3 consistently (I don't, and it causes other playing time issues) and/or that Gobert will start getting reduced minutes for rest...maybe there's a bit of time. 5-10mpg likely, not enough to be attractive to quality FAs or worth giving up assets in a trade for.

The one deal I could see making a bit of sense, since I believe we still have an exception of a little over 5mil, would be to absorb Nick Richards + a 2nd. He's competent enough to eat the kind of minutes I mentioned above and has no long term commitment.

Last season the Reid-Gobert 2-man pairing had a defensive rating of 101.6 (with a 11.8 net rating which was second best on the team among 2-man pairings playing over 500 minutes together), while the Randle-Reid pairing had a defensive rating of 112.9 (with a 2.4 net rating which was second worst on the team). A couple of things seem pretty clear, first is that Naz should be playing next to Rudy as much as possible, and second Finch needs to find ways to compensate for Randle-Reid being a poor defensive frontcourt. If we added a solid defensive center, I would bet on that player averaging 12-14 minutes a night over course of the season.

I wasn't arguing they're an elite pairing. The point is that both are better at those 4/5 spots and need 30+ mpg each. Combined with Rudy and there just isn't much time left for another player.

[Darren]

Dwight Powell is available. So is Jaden Hardy.