Hawks Upgrade, Lakers Upgrade, Jazz Reset

[SkyHook]

Hawks trade: Kennard + 2026 FRP (more favorable of MIL/NOP)
Hawks receive: Austin Reaves

Lakers trade: Hachimura + Reaves + Vincent + Kleber + 2027 FRP (LAL, remove 1-4 protection) + 2031 FRP (LAL, unprotected)
Lakers receive: Markannen + Anderson + George + Love (+ Beal?).

Jazz trade: Markannen + Anderson + George + Love
Jazz receive: Hachimura + Vanderbilt + Vincent + Kleber + Kennard + Goodwin + 2026 FRP (more favorable of MIL/NOP) + 2027 FRP (LAL, remove 1-4 protection) + 2031 FRP (LAL, unprotected)

(For non-aggregation compliance it's Vanderbilt for Anderson and Goodwin for Love.)

Why for Atlanta?
Upgrade backcourt rotation to take advantage of a wide open Eastern Conference this season. (Trade also works if Hawks prefer to keep Kennard and take Reaves into their large TE.)

Why for LA?
Gets $10.1MM under the first apron and $2.1MM under the tax, unlocking the NTMLE — enough to make the most attractive offer to Beal and stay under the first apron where they're already capped. Upgrade roster to compete in what may be LeBron's final season + long term pairing of Luka & Lauri.

Why for Utah?
Hard reset, acquire draft assets.

[Mavrelous]

There are guard starved teams that should pay unprotected 1st for Reaves, Mavs for example, but ATL isn't one of them.
I also don't think Markannen is worth all that at his contract and production, and with LAL lack of supporting defense, they shouldn't do it.
Also, LAL already used their MLE

[Godaddycurse]

Kennard cant be traded til december..

[SkyHook]

There are guard starved teams that should pay unprotected 1st for Reaves, Mavs for example, but ATL isn't one of them.
I also don't think Markannen is worth all that at his contract and production, and with LAL lack of supporting defense, they shouldn't do it.
Also, LAL already used their MLE

Oops, must have missed that. They still have their BAE though, right?

Interestingly, I looked at Dallas first when thinking about this, but figured an EC team might be more willing to make a bold move this season. And I expected some pushback on Lauri's value, which is understandable, but with a view beyond just what he produced last season still might be the most attractive move for the Lakers.

[SkyHook]

Kennard cant be traded til december..

You're right, of course. Something centered around the TE then.

[facothomas22]

Based on what Anfernee Simons,Colin Sexton, and recently Norman Powell got traded for, it's quite safe to say Austin Reaves does not hold anywhere near this level of value, which will of course collapse the Jazz portion of the trade. I don't see anybody trading anything of value to a non all star level guard who don't play defense going forward. Those days are over with.

[psman2]

I am not using that pick on a sixth man that the Hawks likely cannot afford to resign and Reaves likely wanting to start too.

[PistolPeteJR]

Based on what Anfernee Simons,Colin Sexton, and recently Norman Powell got traded for, it's quite safe to say Austin Reaves does not hold anywhere near this level of value, which will of course collapse the Jazz portion of the trade. I don't see anybody trading anything of value to a non all star level guard who don't play defense going forward. Those days are over with.

Simons is meh, Sexton has peaked, and Powell is 32yo. Reaves is 5 years younger. I would absolutely pay more for Reaves than any of those other guys. I know you're biased in every single Lakers thread, but geez man.

[PistolPeteJR]

FWIW, I don't know why the Hawks or Lakers do this. Doesn't address anything for the Hawks that they need addressed (Young-Reaves backcourt on defense is top notch /s), and for the Lakers, Reaves is that secondary playmaker they need post-LeBron. LAL has made it very clear they're setting up for life with Luka post-LeBron.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Lauri a better fit on the Hawks IMO . Not sure Lakers value hit fit and his contract enough to consider this.

[SlimShady83]

If we're trading Reaves we want Kessler

[jayu70]

Hawks trade: Kennard + 2026 FRP (more favorable of MIL/NOP)
Hawks receive: Austin Reaves

Hawks pass. Reaves wants too much money and he'll be playing off the bench behind Dyson Daniels who is up for his early extension.

[Karmaloop]

Somehow I don't think Markkanen is worth multiple unprotected picks.

[Karmaloop]

Simons is meh, Sexton has peaked, and Powell is 32yo. Reaves is 5 years younger. I would absolutely pay more for Reaves than any of those other guys. I know you're biased in every single Lakers thread, but geez man.

If the Lakers were to trade Luka, he'd probably be worth peanuts to facto.

[babyjax13]

If the Hawks did that everyone in their front office should be fired. I think there is an 80 percent chance that is a top 5 lottery odds pick.

[babyjax13]

I guess to add more context, if you told me Atlanta offered that pick for our entire roster outside of Ace Bailey, I would do that trade.

[tmorgan]

If the Hawks did that everyone in their front office should be fired. I think there is an 80 percent chance that is a top 5 lottery odds pick.

Well, you can’t say that, given the current lotto rules. The worst record in the league is a guaranteed top 5 pick (5th half the time, as Utah knows well), and no other pick is top 5 more than half the time.

Milwaukee likely isn’t more than a low seed playoff team and may indeed end up in the lottery, but their odds for a top 5 pick are probably in the 10-15% range unless Giannis goes down. Pelicans odds are better with that crazy roster and playing in the West, but they still aren’t going to finish with a worse record than all of Utah, Brooklyn, Washington etc. Maybe a 30% chance at a top 5 pick, guesstimating. They have quite a bit of talent but no direction, and the more they play Fears and Queen, the worse off they’ll likely be this year. Who knows.

So, yeah, top 5 is probably 50/50 or a bit less. It was still insanely stupid of Dumars and Weaver, and still worth more to Atlanta than Reaves. But you definitely shouldn’t unload your whole roster sans Ace for it. Markkanen might not be worth that pick, but it’s at least kinda close, and Kessler has real value as well. And don’t forget Cody Williams! Sorry, had to do it.

EDIT: actually, I was off a little there. 2nd thru 4th worst records do have better than 50% odds to pick top 5. Still probably close to 50/50 that the pick Atlanta now owns is top 5, though.

[babyjax13]

If the Hawks did that everyone in their front office should be fired. I think there is an 80 percent chance that is a top 5 lottery odds pick.

Well, you can’t say that, given the current lotto rules. The worst record in the league is a guaranteed top 5 pick (5th half the time, as Utah knows well), and no other pick is top 5 more than half the time.

Milwaukee likely isn’t more than a low seed playoff team and may indeed end up in the lottery, but their odds for a top 5 pick are probably in the 10-15% range unless Giannis goes down. Pelicans odds are better with that crazy roster and playing in the West, but they still aren’t going to finish with a worse record than all of Utah, Brooklyn, Washington etc. Maybe a 30% chance at a top 5 pick, guesstimating.

So, yeah, top 5 is probably 50/50 or a bit less. It was still insanely stupid of Dumars and Weaver, and still worth more to Atlanta than Reaves. But you definitely shouldn’t unload your whole roster sans Ace for it. Markkanen might not be worth that pick, but it’s at least kinda close, and Kessler has real value as well. And don’t forget Cody Williams! Sorry, had to do it.

EDIT: actually, I was off a little there. 2nd thru 4th worst records do have better than 50% odds to pick top 5. Still probably close to 50/50 that the pick Atlanta now owns is top 5, though.

"Lottery odds" as in, top 5 before the lottery. Cody Williams is terrible. He might be a bit better this year, but I can't think of a rookie that bad that ever became a core player for a team.

[tmorgan]

If the Hawks did that everyone in their front office should be fired. I think there is an 80 percent chance that is a top 5 lottery odds pick.

Well, you can’t say that, given the current lotto rules. The worst record in the league is a guaranteed top 5 pick (5th half the time, as Utah knows well), and no other pick is top 5 more than half the time.

Milwaukee likely isn’t more than a low seed playoff team and may indeed end up in the lottery, but their odds for a top 5 pick are probably in the 10-15% range unless Giannis goes down. Pelicans odds are better with that crazy roster and playing in the West, but they still aren’t going to finish with a worse record than all of Utah, Brooklyn, Washington etc. Maybe a 30% chance at a top 5 pick, guesstimating.

So, yeah, top 5 is probably 50/50 or a bit less. It was still insanely stupid of Dumars and Weaver, and still worth more to Atlanta than Reaves. But you definitely shouldn’t unload your whole roster sans Ace for it. Markkanen might not be worth that pick, but it’s at least kinda close, and Kessler has real value as well. And don’t forget Cody Williams! Sorry, had to do it.

EDIT: actually, I was off a little there. 2nd thru 4th worst records do have better than 50% odds to pick top 5. Still probably close to 50/50 that the pick Atlanta now owns is top 5, though.

"Lottery odds" as in, top 5 before the lottery. Cody Williams is terrible. He might be a bit better this year, but I can't think of a rookie that bad that ever became a core player for a team.

My bad! I’ve been highly rant-y today and apparently can’t read.

80% chance at top 5 lottery odds. Utah, Brooklyn, Washington, Charlotte, Phoenix, with honorable mentions to the Sixers and Kings. Gotta be worse than 3 of those 7 teams. Not much chance Milwaukee does that. The Pelicans are the key, and while they sucked bad last year, they had a ton of injuries not even counting Dejounte and Zion. It’s certainly possible, but I’m not going as high as 80%.

[SkyHook]

If the Hawks did that everyone in their front office should be fired. I think there is an 80 percent chance that is a top 5 lottery odds pick.

Yeah, a swing and a miss by me there.