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DanishLakerFan wrote:To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

DanishLakerFan wrote:To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

Sooo, you say Mikal would fit well between luka and LeBron then in trade 2, trade Lebron

I think they keep LeBron and his expiring. Keep their options open. The mikal trade might be interesting.

cgf wrote:Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

Apz wrote:

cgf wrote:Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

Sounds like a banhammer. Trust me, had enough of those

taikibansei wrote:

The common element of all these proposed Knicks trades for Lebron is that nobody can ever explain what's in it for the Knicks...so posters don't even bother trying (beyond writing some variation of "they'll be a contender!!").

On paper, we're already the next best EC team after the Cavs right now (though I worry that the step-down in coaching quality is going to cause us to under-perform significantly next season). Given this, do any of these proposed trades for Lebron make us significantly better than we already are? Hmm....

KAT was arguably better than 40-year-old Lebron James last season, and my money's on the much younger KAT being better than Lebron this coming season. Disagree? Fine...but it's close enough that I struggle to see why we'd take a flyer on the easily disgruntled, soon to be 41-year-old who (at $53 million in salary...) is possibly playing out his final year. The disaster potential is just too high. I mean, despite his flaws, KAT fills two important roles (scoring and rebounding) and he actually likes playing on the Knicks. When in doubt, I want to keep the guy that really wants to be here, particularly as he's arguably the better player.

As for trading OG and Robinson for Lebron, this would leave the Knicks (a team which often struggled with defense last season) without our two best defenders. As the soon to be 41-year-old Lebron can't play sustained, high-level defense anymore (or he would have tried doing so last season), the resulting squad would give up substantially more than it can score...and struggle to make the play-in. Again, this should be an easy rejection by our FO.

Yenrallik1111 wrote:

DanishLakerFan wrote:To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

Sooo, you say Mikal would fit well between luka and LeBron then in trade 2, trade Lebron

I think they keep LeBron and his expiring. Keep their options open. The mikal trade might be interesting.

Astaluego wrote:Reaves is the same age as Luka and if you surround them with good defenders, it could work, the same way Luka + Irving worked (I'm talking about the fit) ... Lebron + (FRP 2031) goes to NY to try to win a championship and OG + Robinson to the LAKERS ... (The Knicks continue signing Horford or Boucher to replace Robinson), Lebron would play another year after this one in this scenario

Brunson/Hart/Bridges/LeBron/KAT
Mcbridge/Clarksson/Yabusele/Horford

jbk1234 wrote:Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority.

cgf wrote:Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

Texas Chuck wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority.

On paper this sounds right, but seems pretty relevant that in Dallas the Mavs found their most success when they paired Luka with Brunson and Kyrie.

jbk1234 wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority.

On paper this sounds right, but seems pretty relevant that in Dallas the Mavs found their most success when they paired Luka with Brunson and Kyrie.

They also drafted Lively, traded for PJ, and traded Gafford. In fact, but for Lively and Gafford, I don't think the Mavs would've gotten past OKC. I suspect that they wouldn't have gotten past OKC with Hartenstein last postseason even if they kept Luka.

However, even if you think Kyrie was more impactful than the Mavs other additions that season, Reaves isn't prime Kyrie. Prime Kyrie was an elite 2nd option offensively, even in the playoffs.

jayjaysee wrote:I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

jbk1234 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

It keeps getting reported that LBJ has a NTC, but I think that might be sloppy reporting.

jayjaysee wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

It keeps getting reported that LBJ has a NTC, but I think that might be sloppy reporting.

I trust in Spotrac saying he has one?

But even if he doesn’t, I don’t think you trade LBJ unless he asks. He’s Lebron. Even if you are done with him, you make money off of him for the last year, respect his legacy and tell him no thanks next season.. Unless Joker or Giannis or something ridiculous gets offered, you keep Lebron for one year and move on quietly next year?