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Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:10 pm
by BelgradeNugget
Denver trades to Washington: 2026 1st rd pick swap
Denver trades to Utah: Zake Nnaji ($8.1M, $7.5M, $7.5M (po)), Hunter Tyson ($2.2M, $2.4M (to))
Denver recives: Kyle Anderson ($9.2M, $9.7M (ng))
Washington trades to Utah: 2 most favorable 2026 2nd round picks of PHX / (MIN or NYK or NOP or POR) / (OKC or DAL or PHL)
Washington recives from Denver: 2026 1st rd pick swap rights
Utah trades to Denver: Kyle Anderson
Utah recives from Denver: Zake Nnaji, Hunter Tyson
Utah recives from Washington: 2 most favorable 2026 2nd round picks of PHX / (MIN or NYK or NOP or POR) / (OKC or DAL or PHL)
Why for Denver: brings veteran PF for 2 players out of rotation. He improves their team BBIQ, is aditional playmaker of the bench, solid player for contender. SloMo's 2 year is non guarantied, they could decline it to have money to resing Braun, Watson or keep him if he fits well with bench
Jokic/JVal
AG/SloMo
CamJ/Swatson
CB/THJ
Murray/BruceB
Why for Washington: they have worst of OKC/HOU 2026 1st round pick, projected to be 30th. With swap with Denver they move few spots in the 1st round for 2 of potentialy 4, 2026 2nds they have. Their own 2026 2nd is not included
Why for utah: Utah didn't get as much draft capital from Collins/Sexton trades as expected, they get 2 2nds in 2026 (they don't have 2nd rd pick in 2026)
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:21 pm
by Mavrelous
I think DEN should take Svi into TPE to balance rosters and maintain cap space for UTA, they have been passive, but I think they want to keep the option of making a play at Giddy or Kuminga.
Anderson is a good homeless man Jokic version as playmaking big for the second unit.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:59 pm
by BelgradeNugget
Mavrelous wrote:I think DEN should take Svi into TPE to balance rosters and maintain cap space for UTA, they have been passive, but I think they want to keep the option of making a play at Giddy or Kuminga.
Anderson is a good homeless man Jokic version as playmaking big for the second unit.
Problem is Denver is $400.000 above lux tax. This years tax would have been $1.2M which is nothing. But I think they will try to get under to not be repeated offender in the future. Next year after they resign Braun/Watson they'll be close to 2nd apron team and diference between lux tax or lux tax for repeated offender will be big.
After this trade the best way for Denver to fill 14th roster spot will be from their 2-way players contracts turn into standard NBA contract for $1.2M.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:14 pm
by Mavrelous
BelgradeNugget wrote:Mavrelous wrote:I think DEN should take Svi into TPE to balance rosters and maintain cap space for UTA, they have been passive, but I think they want to keep the option of making a play at Giddy or Kuminga.
Anderson is a good homeless man Jokic version as playmaking big for the second unit.
Problem is Denver is $400.000 above lux tax. This years tax would have been $1.2M which is nothing. But I think they will try to get under to not be repeated offender in the future. Next year after they resign Braun/Watson they'll be close to 2nd apron team and diference between lux tax or lux tax for repeated offender will be big.
After this trade the best way for Denver to fill 14th roster spot will be from their 2-way players contracts turn into standard NBA contract for $1.2M.
2-way players don't count into the minimum roster spots requirement, they'll stay tax payers after this deal, you can't fill a roster spot for 1.2M.
If the goal is to duck tax, Nnaji needs to be traded for a player making less than him by 402K
To reset repeater tax you need to stay out of tax 2 years, not just one, I think they will consider it and try to stay below tax this year to keep their options open, but it'll be very hard for them to be below tax next year or the one after it.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:52 pm
by SkyHook
The Jazz have previously stated that they don't want to take on money beyond next season and everything they've done so far seems to confirm that. I would hope/expect that they might reconsider for the right deal, but I don't remotely see them doing this deal for that level of return.
That 2026 DEN swap with WAS has a tiny expectation of being exercised and is almost of no value whatsoever. The Nuggets would have to give up something real in order to move Nnaji's relatively small contract.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 2:01 pm
by BelgradeNugget
Mavrelous wrote:BelgradeNugget wrote:Mavrelous wrote:I think DEN should take Svi into TPE to balance rosters and maintain cap space for UTA, they have been passive, but I think they want to keep the option of making a play at Giddy or Kuminga.
Anderson is a good homeless man Jokic version as playmaking big for the second unit.
Problem is Denver is $400.000 above lux tax. This years tax would have been $1.2M which is nothing. But I think they will try to get under to not be repeated offender in the future. Next year after they resign Braun/Watson they'll be close to 2nd apron team and diference between lux tax or lux tax for repeated offender will be big.
After this trade the best way for Denver to fill 14th roster spot will be from their 2-way players contracts turn into standard NBA contract for $1.2M.
2-way players don't count into the minimum roster spots requirement, they'll stay tax payers after this deal, you can't fill a roster spot for 1.2M.
If the goal is to duck tax, Nnaji needs to be traded for a player making less than him by 402K
To reset repeater tax you need to stay out of tax 2 years, not just one, I think they will consider it and try to stay below tax this year to keep their options open, but it'll be very hard for them to be below tax next year or the one after it.
I don't see this as ducking tax move, I know they will not go under tax line this way. But I think they will try to be as close to tax line as posible to duck taxt with next move. If they sign their 2-way player Curtis Jones to standard NBA contract his contract will count into the minimum roster spots requirement. Min contract for players with 0 NBA experiance is $1.2M. They will be 500k over luxtax this way.
Next move could be trading Pickett for any 2nd round picks signed this year to standard contract ($1.2M) and they are under tax line.
This is easiest way, od course they could do some others moves too.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 2:11 pm
by BelgradeNugget
SkyHook wrote:The Jazz have previously stated that they don't want to take on money beyond next season and everything they've done so far seems to confirm that. I would hope/expect that they might reconsider for the right deal, but I don't remotely see them doing this deal for that level of return.
That 2026 DEN swap with WAS has a tiny expectation of being exercised and is almost of no value whatsoever. The Nuggets would have to give up something real in order to move Nnaji's relatively small contract.
These are basically 2 different trades combined in one. Denver/Washington is bet from Washington worst of OKC/HOU 1st round pick they have will be worst than Denvers pick, and trade for 2 2nds is worth moving few spots up in the 1st round. Bet from Denver's side is they will be top 5 team next year and they will move just few spots back in the 1st round. It can be executed without Utah's part. Denver takes 2 2nds back.
Utah - Dever part is about value of SloMo. If Utah doesn't want to turn SloMo into 2 2nds and longer contract ok. Denver doesn't need to move Nnaji, SloMo is good option but not needed one for Denver.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 2:50 pm
by nate33
I liked this trade concept a month ago before Denver reinforced their roster with Cam, JV and Bruce Brown. Now I'm not sure if the difference between Denver's pick and OKC's pick is worth two SRP's. I figure OKC will pick 30th and Denver will pick 27th or so. Is 3 spots that late in the draft worth two SRP's?
I might make this type of move on Draft Day if I knew I was moving up 5-6 spots, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger now. It's not a terrible proposal or anything. It's just not quite enough to entice me.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 3:34 pm
by BelgradeNugget
nate33 wrote:I liked this trade concept a month ago before Denver reinforced their roster with Cam, JV and Bruce Brown. Now I'm not sure if the difference between Denver's pick and OKC's pick is worth two SRP's. I figure OKC will pick 30th and Denver will pick 27th or so. Is 3 spots that late in the draft worth two SRP's?
I might make this type of move on Draft Day if I knew I was moving up 5-6 spots, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger now. It's not a terrible proposal or anything. It's just not quite enough to entice me.
I understand reasoning, just these 2nd round picks will not be very high ones also. Potentional Washington own 2nd is excluded. 1 will probobly come from PHX - 40+, and 2nd will be more favorable of MIN and NYK - 50+ in year Washington has 1(2) 1st round picks and 3(4) 2nd round picks.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:24 am
by penbeast0
I'd probably do it for Washington. Small cost, small reward but possibly some degree of variance gives the hope it's a bargain.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:44 am
by babyjax13
I would not do this. Anderson's last year is ung. Don't care about Tyson. 2nds for 8 million on the books next year just isn't appealing when we could just decide to do something with that extra space next year.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 5:01 am
by GatherStepGuru
Don’t like it for WAS. Maybe I’m assessing wrong, but it seems like they’re basically just giving away 2 picks. I don’t think many ppl expect WAS to have a better record than Denver next year, so how much value is that? Plus they already have a swap with PHX this year
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 6:57 am
by BelgradeNugget
GatherStepGuru wrote:Don’t like it for WAS. Maybe I’m assessing wrong, but it seems like they’re basically just giving away 2 picks. I don’t think many ppl expect WAS to have a better record than Denver next year, so how much value is that? Plus they already have a swap with PHX this year
It is not swap for Was own pick. It is swap for pick Washington recived in trade - worst of OKC/HOU 1st projected to be 30th.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 7:15 am
by Daddy 801
I’d pass on this as a Jazz fan. I’m all for sending out Love, Nurc, Anderson, etc. But without real draft capital coming back it doesn’t make sense to tie up the books. The more teams that compete and have their books tied up the more Utah can leverage their cap space to get more premium assets later down the line. At some point Utah will tie up their own books, but that’s 2-4 years away.
Re: Utah/Denver with Washington
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:17 am
by jayjaysee
If Anderson’s second year was guaranteed, this probably looks roughly fair.
But Denver needs to add more value here to dump two years of Nnaji