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** For the poll Yes or NO it's that simple lols

With recent chat in other thread figured I'd make a new one just for this.

I know some of you think Lakers/Dallas should never trade again with each other but this trade helps both teams IMO

This trade will happen mid season doubt it would happen now.

No one knows what form Kyrie is going to be like when he does come back and Dallas should not rush him back either having Reaves
will help with this and take a load off Kyrie, DLO is not your answer trust me on that one lols.

Reaves a PG for Lakers b4 Luka trade getting triple doubles and even had some 30-10-10 games such as X-mass day vs GSW,
he wants to play PG not SG and with Luka he won't be doing that.

Dallas meanwhile has too many BIGs and especially if Flagg turns out the way everyone expecting (not me haven't made mind on him)
there won't be enough playing time for all the BIGs, Dallas will probably have to trade either Gafford or PJ - I heard things that Gafford wants to start also, so guessing Gafford/AD starting?.

I'm proposing the Gafford for Reaves swap

No picks, no other player needed just a straight swap


But in saying that I am feeling generous today, I'll even throw in Knecht for free, maybe Klay can mentor him OR a SRP

BTW Gafford is not worth a FRP, but would be ok with SRP as some were talking.

Happy wknd Peace out.

Lakers don't consider this, Mavs do this instantly.
Gafford is a very good scoring big, and offensive rebounder, he also provides good rim protection in a drop, but can be played off the floor in the PO when offenses become targeted on opposing team weaknesses, he also has been inexplicably poor defensive rebounder.
Reaves is a starting level guard on and off ball, has been on deep PO runs team, can be 2nd option offensively, and if not relied on to be the stopper, he's passable on defense, had positive net rating regardless of LeBron or AD being on the floor.
Gafford can't be the starting center next to Luka if LAL want to contend.
Reaves can be the starting guard next to Luka post LeBron, LAL just need find 3&D guard and wing, and a defensive big.

Awful trade for the Lakers.

Mavs would need to add some significant value. And I’m not even that big of a Reaves guy.

Gafford + PJ for Reaves + Vincent is closer.

jbk1234 wrote:Gafford + PJ for Reaves + Vincent is closer.

Closer for sure. But too far in the other direction now. Especially if PJ really signs this extension. Reaves' contract is a real factor here.

Maybe Dallas should get to do this to make the Luka for AD trade a little fairer.

BK_2020 wrote:Maybe Dallas should get to do this to make the Luka for AD trade a little fairer.

They should have negotiated this in that deal. Real miss imo.

Yeah, I don’t think many/any are going to value Gafford over Reaves.

I’d say at the trade deadline it’s probably fair, but even then Dallas still probably owes something.

Texas Chuck wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:Gafford + PJ for Reaves + Vincent is closer.

Closer for sure. But too far in the other direction now. Especially if PJ really signs this extension. Reaves' contract is a real factor here.

I don't disagree, but Vincent is expiring, Gafford got a raise, and if PJ gets extended, it's going to be a wash on the money front. I understand why the Mavs extended Kyrie sight unseen (I would not have), but that's more of the issue when it comes to trading for Reaves, and that gets back to trying to dual track a retool with aging and injury prone stars.

oh if the discussion is Dallas has a dumb plan, they absolutely have a dumb plan lol. Though I at least understand it considering the lack of control of their own picks after this summer. Might as well try and be competitive and then re-configure around Flagg if he proves worthy. I don't see a way for them to realistically be good enough. It would take 2nd year Flagg being a top 40 player with AD/Kyrie having a star level season with good health. Just nothing that should remotely be banked on.

Once you trade Luka, you are trading away championship dreams.

Yeah Dallas owes significant value here. Reaves' impending FA status is the only thing that makes this even worth discussing IMO, the baseline is just too far off.

In a vacuum, Rui for Gafford is closer value-wise.

I have Reaves and PJ in the same ballpark in terms of value, Gafford > Vincent, but if PJ is extended, he's ineligible for a trade until next offseason, unless he shockingly does the Gafford extension.

Mavrelous wrote:Lakers don't consider this, Mavs do this instantly.
Gafford is a very good scoring big, and offensive rebounder, he also provides good rim protection in a drop, but can be played off the floor in the PO when offenses become targeted on opposing team weaknesses, he also has been inexplicably poor defensive rebounder.
Reaves is a starting level guard on and off ball, has been on deep PO runs team, can be 2nd option offensively, and if not relied on to be the stopper, he's passable on defense, had positive net rating regardless of LeBron or AD being on the floor.
Gafford can't be the starting center next to Luka if LAL want to contend.
Reaves can be the starting guard next to Luka post LeBron, LAL just need find 3&D guard and wing, and a defensive big.

Very interesting read of all the replies so far
Lakers would have line up of; Ayton, Gafford,Bron,Smart?, Luka. would be interesting. how would you go about double teaming Luka probably going to have to leave Smart open or Gafford, Luka just going to throw it up and let Ayton/Gafford dunk it.

jbk1234 wrote:Gafford + PJ for Reaves + Vincent is closer.

Wow ok I'd do this. I'm a Reaves fan, but this team is all about LaLuka now.

gswhoops wrote:Yeah Dallas owes significant value here. Reaves' impending FA status is the only thing that makes this even worth discussing IMO, the baseline is just too far off.

In a vacuum, Rui for Gafford is closer value-wise.

I'd do this as well. There's still a mixed bag of feelings with Laker fans on Rui


I like Reaves and have stated b4 else where we should trade him, but also started thinking about when Bron retires or plays else where, we will only have Luka and will need Reaves playmaking, In the end I think Lakers will pay Reaves, but I still consider trading him, It's all about LaLuka now.

See how they all go come mid season

Reaves is worth more than Gafford, a good bit more

SlimShady83 wrote:*

I'm proposing the Gafford for Reaves swap

No picks, no other player needed just a straight swap

Gafford+LAL29FRP for Reaves?

I don't want Reaves at 30M at all. I'd rather have Gafford on half of Reaves's contract. This trade is perfect for LAL for sure. The Mavs cannot take on more salary in trade due to cap restriction.

PJ+Klay for Reaves